Subways are for sleeping: NYC Transit survival thread

yeah the g to forest hills doesn't really help us anyway. they are actually bringing back some services that were cut w/ the last massacre but that probably won't be one of them.

I'm free! My usual half-hour trip took almost an hour and a half, but the real tragedy is that i missed my yoga class.

--Virginia Plain

God today was terrible. I knew the 7 was having problems when i saw the huge crush of people on the platform at times sq so schlepped over to the e, which was filled with all the overflow 7 train commuters. The train kept stopping every 5 seconds. Then when we finally got to Roosevelt, the bus lines were massive (again, abandoned 7 trainers) so I walked home and melted as I walked--wrong day to swing by trader joes and to have my laptop on me...

Oh how long is the q32 ride from ts to wherever u took it to? Never thought abt that. Where in times sq does the q32 stop??

it doesn't stop at times sq, it starts next to penn station on 32nd then goes east then down madison. the amount of time it takes depends on whether it's rush hour or not, but maybe 30 mins to get to where I live in sunnyside?

in terms of need there are tons of places that need subways to manhattan more than we need another brooklyn-queens line

hard to admit, but sadly true

Just passed through VERNON-JACKSON•AVE'S and HUNTERS•PT•AVE aka H•P• without a hitch

actually it's kind of amazing how much of queens is nowhere near a subway -- are there historical reasons for that, like did residents oppose it?

well there's not really just one answer, that's the answer w/r/t certain late 20th century proposals in queens, but the big reason is that the ind 2nd system was shelved due to the depression. after that there weren't really any megaprojects anywhere, including manhattan.

http://www.nycsubway.org/articles/indsecond.html

iatee do you have political aspirations

(taking no piss whatsoever)

iatee, can you recommend a good book abt the history of the subway system

today's posts = I will move to the Pacific NW ahead of Queens.

haha there is seriously no one on ilx who would be a worse politician, I like activism tho

ian, there's a medium-length work online that's quite thorough w/ the history but not long enough to just be boring technical stuff, I'm trying to find it

haha there is seriously no one on ilx who would be a worse politician

as long as Morbz is around, i think that that is just not true.

Jackson Heights is calling you, Morbs. You're grumpy, you're a Mets fan and you're ... ah never mind

just for that I'm gonna run against Schumer, Philthy

Thanks! (many xps ago)

i'd actually vote for you in that election if i lived in NY, believe it or not.

that's the tough thing about being a pol or a pop star, you have to appeal to ... never mind

you'd blow it by mandating that TMC run non-stop Jerry Lewis movie marathons, and that's just for starters.

def want child-free cars on the trains

ian:
http://www.nycsubway.org/articles/haer-nyrapid.html
http://www.nycsubway.org/articles/haer-impact-irt.html
http://www.nycsubway.org/articles/fifty_years_of_rapid_transit.html
http://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/History_of_the_Independent_Subway
http://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/Recent_New_York_Transit_History

(that's actually a buncha stuff and not one piece, but in any case that site has everything you'd want)

Doesn't the G still have by far the lowest ridership?

Also why are there stops every 4 blocks on the 1 train and yet they can't build a single fucking station btwn Houston and 14th on the East side??

14 blocks is an okay distance between stations. furthest someone would have to walk is like 1/3 a mile, and even then that's going to be rare - like 1/14 people. in return every single person who takes that train anywhere gets a faster trip. there is one abandoned station for the 1 train and one for the 6, in both cases cause they determined people could just walk from the next station. if the 1 were being built today it wouldn't look like it does but if they were built today they wouldn't be built instead of being built.

the g is always going to have the lowest ridership. people take the train to work and work is manhattan.

err to clarify 'takes that train' was a reference to the future-future 2nd avenue segment that will be built from houston to 14th on the east side. there won't be any other train / station in that area in our lifetimes, nor in alphabet city. maybe some crazy light-rail project if we pray.

also another thing worth remembering is that the 2nd and 3rd ave els provided service to that part of town back when the subways were being built. so when you're thinkin 'why is there nothing here', there was, it just went away.

also I realized there are other abandoned stations for the 6 train but in my head I was thinking only grid-manhattan

err I'm going to bed

Also why are there stops every 4 blocks on the 1 train and yet they can't build a single fucking station btwn Houston and 14th on the East side??

you seem to be forgetting abt bleecker street and astor place on the 6

I think his implication was the area further east tho

Just left HUNTERS•PT.•AVE. and everything seems to be going smoothly so far this evening

yeah it was fine today, yesterday there was some signal problem cause of the heat but they fixed it

i wish that there was a HUNTA D AVE stop.

52 St-Lincoln Av

Nothing to report

we should have a thread where we talk about nothing but the 7 train

There's a cool breeze blowing at Junction Blvd

skinny on the new buses

http://transportationnation.org/2012/07/19/breaking-nyc-transit-says-g-train-expansion-permanent-adds-new-bus-routes/

downside of G expansion: G clogs up the way of my F commutes, and I live a stop beyond the Church Ave terminus.

Was going to take the wtF train to Brooklyn but things are not looking good on that line so I'm crawled back to the surface and decided to stay in Queens

(If only the iPhone autocorrected grammar too. Not)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1yN0ldPWYE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1yN0ldPWYE

OFF THE RUSH-HOUR TRAIN WITH YOUR BABY CARRIAGE

http://www.animalnewyork.com/2012/subway-deaths/

annual Straphangers report card

http://www.straphangers.org/statesub12/

The Q!

I am glad the straphangers campaign exists but this particular scoring metric is kinda eh, I mean of course the C trains breakdown the most, they are the oldest cars in the system and they are due to be replaced in a few years. complaining to the MTA won't make them break down less, it won't make them not-50-years-old. chance of getting a seat during rush hour is often due to fundamentals (the l is at capacity) and where you are (you can still get a seat on the l, it just helps if you live in carnasie). in general seat availability during rush hour is probably *a bad thing*. more trains should be added to the lines that are regularly completely packed, not to lines that are semi-full. and the 6 had the most scheduled service cause the lexington ave line is the busiest transit line in the country not because 'it's working better' or whatever. it would not make sense to switch the 6 and c schedules.

how far does the average subway car travel in an average day?

i only take the c if it comes before an a, but yeah those old cars like to throw everyone suddenly when starting.

idk the answer to that or if there really is one, but I'll look it up

TICKETS FOR DOUCHEBAGS WHO BRING BIKES ON RUSH-HOUR TRAINS

TICKETS, AND PREFERABLY JAIL

cosign. I'm also kind of annoyed with people who bring strollers at rush hour, even as a parent. Use a carrier or go at a different time. Or just fold the damn stroller and hold the kid's hand if he's old enough to walk. Particularly when I see two parents doing this together.

oh I guess you said that

last week i saw a cyclist, asleep, with his bike across five seats (in the corner of the car.)

I was so, so, so tempted to kick over his cycle as I exited but I held myself back.