Chicago MMXII

I do still get in dumb arguments. I often wish the Chicago thread was a separate thing, would make it easier to take a break or quit ILX.

i totally get what you're saying n/a and, yeah, that's true, to a point. but tbh, if i just ignored every thread that that same group of posters went after me in, i'd have like 2 threads left on ilx to take part in. i do need to remember that expressing earnestness and sincerity on this board is a cardinal sin, tho. i just don't like that the attitude around here is, "it's your fault for being offended, not my fault for being a dick".

Sorry I hadn't seen people saying similar things on pitchfork thread, didn't mean to pile on.

i wind up talking to myself a lot on ilx in the hope that someone will also have an interest in this thing i am talking about
that's ok with me
at least the possibility exists of someone talking to me, right?! (also appears to keep me out of arguments, at least usually)

The thing is everyone knows those posters are being dicks, so if you ignore their trolling, they don't get the satisfaction of a response AND people still know they're dicks. You don't have to ignore whole threads, just don't respond to trolling. You'll feel better about yourself if you exercise will power than if you let yourself get sucked in to the bullshit. Again, speaking from personal experience here. I still let myself get pulled into arguments but I always feel shitty about it.

yeah, i mean, i understand that logically, but its always hard to remember that when i get sucked back in. but i'm not so sure about the "people still know they're dicks" part though.

expressing earnestness and sincerity on this board is a cardinal sin

Yeah, in some threads, totally. I hate this and the whole "cuddlestein" backlash. Because being nice to people and having conversations with them is such a fucking disgusting past time I guess.

I wish our culture was one in which people ganged up on bullies and forced them out of the herd instead of putting the impetus on whoever is getting bullied to ignore them, although I agree with Nick that creating a robust personal mental killfile is key for happiness on ILX (probably the whole internet).

(probably life, come to think of it)

I could have mentally killfiled that hideous human being wearing a fashion scarf on the train this morning an saved myself like 10 mm of bloodpressure.

yeah, totally. as someone said in the other thread, "whiney can't stop being an asshole, but you can stop taking it badly." well, why can't he stop being an asshole?

Because being nice to people and having conversations with them is such a fucking disgusting past time I guess.
i have a fucking disgusting pastime! Hooray!

xp Heh. (Although maybe it's better not to say something negative another poster in here so we can keep this a meta-conflict free space as much as possible.)

I like being nice to people and having conversations! I'm soooooooooooooooooooooo gross.

did Je55e make an intentional RA Dickey reference recently?

yeah i probably shouldn't have mentioned that poster's name.

xp *googles*

Holy shit, I think he did.

Don't sweat it, jvc! I was making a suggestion for the future (plus a reminder to myself since I'm pretty sure I've talked some shit about other posters in Chicago threads plenty).

JVC, I wouldn't want to see you go permanently, but maybe a break is a good idea. Of course I've noticed the usual bullies trying to get a rise out of you, but I write them off as incorrigible. What pissed me off recently though is the way one relatively likeable poster has been hounding you with petty jibes and judgments. That person's ILX persona is sort of "tough" and no-nonsense, but they're usually decent to other people, except they seem to have decided that you're some kind of special project for ~telling it like it is~ in a way that seems aimed at getting you to grow a pair or some shit. Anyway, I'm sorry that's happening. I usually have no problem speaking my mind, but I've been less involved in ILX culture and after feuding with Morbs a while back, I've been avoiding conflict. Sorry I haven't spoken up on your behalf, but just know that I'd much rather keep you around than bullies and personality police.

xps

lol xp'd Morbs himself! I have been interested in reading about baseball and hockey players recently. Say what you will about Frank DeFord (sp?) but he has sparked an interest in sports (personalities) in me.

Oddly, I have never found Whiney very hard to deal with. We don't really interact, but he seems sort of innocuous to me. Note, that is MY experience only.

Now explain that RA Dickey reference.

hahaha NEVER MIND XPOST JINX FUCK YOU

Say what you will about Frank DeFord

He's a terrible person and shouldn't be allowed within 500 feet of a radio transmitter.

whiney def pushes all my buttons

You know who RA Dickey is, right? He throws knuckleballs and I arbitrarily chose him to make reference to b/c of our conversation about communicating via references.

xp

I love Whiney and I want to hike to journey to the peak of Cuddlestein Mountain with him.

thanks Je55e. i don't expect anyone to stand up for me, but it is nice to know that i'm not the only that notices some of this stuff. i guess thats what is bugging me today. it isn't just that, on no poster x decided to give me shit today. its more that its poster x today, poster y yesterday, poster z in a different thread. each of these posters seems to think, "oh come on, what i say to you isn't that big of a deal", but its like, cumulatively, this shit gets to be a drag and bums me out on ilx on the whole.

(xpost)

frank deford is terrible but in kind of an amusing way

guyzzzzzzzzzzzz please stop talking about whiney. He is not here, and I really really really would hate to see the Chicago thread turn into a Chicago v. Whiney referendum.

I'm sorry. I'm being the thread police but it's 100% fear based aggression.

i remember n/a defending frank deford before, and i continue to remember that every time i hear frank deford and think about how much i can't stand him

him - frank, not n/a!!

the all-day posting professional ilx cru are the WORST

it def tells you something about how highly ilx values its trolls that (a certain amphibian poster) not only hasn't been banned, but has a small contingent of people that defend his "persona"

all-day posting professional ilx cru

omg copyright that because it's brilliant

Honestly I feel some sympathy for amphib-bs these days b/c of the knee-jerk pile on to literally (almost literally) every single thing he says, regardless of its being totally uncontroversial.

i can definitely see that, he did get piled on a lot. i started to feel some sympathy for him at one point, but then he said something totally racist again and i got over it.

As posted on Spin, a photo of the 'Do Not Buy' list from Laurie's Planet of Sound:

http://www.spin.com/sites/all/files/styles/style620_413/public/120718-do-not-buy-list.png

what did Therapy? do to piss ppl off?

LOL Spin Doctors

http://www.contactmusic.com/videoimages/sbmg/spin-doctors-how-could-you-want-him-when-you-know-you.jpg

What'd I do to you???

lol

I can't tell if that one in the first column is 'Suede' or 'Svede' but if the former, fuck that, because I'd love to find some cheap used Suede to fill in some gaps in my collection.

Btw, Jon, I very much sympathize with your feelings about ILX. I occasionally felt like a punching bag around here ca. 2004-06. Whenever people mock or criticize me, especially if I feel it arises from a misunderstanding, my natural instinct is to become defensive and explanatory. And so that happened a lot, and it never really did much good.

I don't know that I ever adapted in the sense of developing a thicker skin or learning to brush things off, but over time, because of changes in my personal life, I began to feel less emotionally invested in ILX (even as I continued to enjoy the community) and so I simply didn't participate as often in those kinds of heated conversations. Also, a couple of my "enemies" stopped posting or posted less often. Not sure if that's ultimately helpful, but I wanted to throw it out there anyway.

What are the words before "pitchforky"? looks like:

everyday "pitchforky" - I just getting everyone prepared for the 2010's.

And so that happened a lot

I just reread this thread, hoo boy:
ban kenan

everyday "pitchforky" - I just getting everyone prepared for the 2010's.

I think it's "everything," not "everyday." The implication is that in a few years, all the Pitchfork faves from 2000-09 will be as unwanted as the Spin Doctors are today.

Thanks jaymc, I think that is really pretty similar to how I feel. I dig myself into those holes because I want to overexplain stuff when misunderstandings arise or someone misinterprets one of my posts, but it just makes things worse.

xp In my view, history has been much kinder to you (jaymc) in that thread than it was to those other assholes.

Ha, "history."

The Noise Board at its peak was a strange thing.

yeah was that like the first major ilx crisis? or like the first major shift in ilx tone?

crisis on infinite boards