the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

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maybe he doesn't wanna reveal his returns cuz he really only tithes eight percent, nine maybe

contenderizer, Thursday, 19 July 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

Skimming off the top.

http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/ZN6mp2NjMhs/mqdefault.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 19 July 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

breaking: greenwald to guardian http://www.salon.com/2012/07/19/home_news/

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

awesome. let the english deal with him.

Mordy, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

bill hicks of the blog era

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

They deserve each other.

LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

America Mordy can't handle the truth
(I think we'll still be able to read him, like magic)

This has nothing to do with the election btw.

So my point before was that the assumption that Obama is the lesser evil between these two shits is an airy assumption.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

lesser of two evils is maybe a useful expression but if you are really thinking in terms of evil you have already given up on attempting to understand anything

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

a crisp expression of postmodern amorality, that

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

hah you are such a classic conservative

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

OH I SEE

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

lol its true!

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

(I think we'll still be able to read him, like magic)

i visit salon everyday. i visit the guardian never when ilxors post funny/stupid guardian articles. this will be a marked decrease in the quantity of gg in my life!

Mordy, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

im happy glenns getting a bigger platform, i dont really like reading him that much but he makes some important points and is generally a p unique voice in the bigtime blogosphere

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

I hope Romney pays close attention to NRO for political strategy: today's poll is running 96% yes on the question of "Does Romney Need to Take the Gloves Off?"

clemenza, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

"thinking in terms of evil" has often cut across the political spectrum throughout history, save for death-metalists like yrself. xxxxp

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Take those dressage gloves off, Romney!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

romney def needs to take the gloves off, when people finally here abt how obama is an african socialist who did drugs they will surely turn against him

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

That's what I mean about how much discipline it will take for Romney to resist that stuff, though. He's Jimmy Conway, trying to do things methodically, while his base is Morrie the wig salesman, shouting "We've been bleeding for this caper, we've been cultivating this son-of-a-bitch for four years!"

clemenza, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

"thinking in terms of evil" has often cut across the political spectrum throughout history, save for death-metalists like yrself. xxxxp

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:36 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well i would argue that think of people as evil is contrary to the liberal humanist tradition, and equating post modernism w/amorality is purely a contemporary conservative maneuver, to this evidence i would add the fact that you think things used to be better, which is of course the core conservative belief

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

oh lord another Kant discussion

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

i.. just.. kant

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

"thinking of people as evil" is not nec the point (though we all are to varying degrees, obv [hi Catholic]), but evaluating the moral consequences of actions.

"postmodern" was a bad word choice, I should've just said "contemporary", eg Bill Maher's assumption that all religious ppl are stupid or evil.

so a German in 1938 who thought things used to be better was conservative?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

"Romney Takes Off His Gloves" sounds like an outtake from Heartland

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

Someone's gotta do it (even though I think he's putting them on).

http://paulkiser.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/romney-glove.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

(though we all are to varying degrees, obv [hi Catholic])

turn back while you still can

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

so a German in 1938 who thought things used to be better was conservative?

this is disingenuous, it depends on WHICH things you think used to be better. in 1938 Hitler thought things used to be better etc and now GODWIN'S LAW let's shut up about this already sheesh

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

How could things have used to be better? There are iPhones now

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

Also, I wasn't alive in the past.

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

none of the things that have gotten better in America in the last 30 years have to do with the political establishment, that's for sure

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

what abt the internet

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

cleaner air and water, safer highways

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

what about it? a tool as good as its users, like nearly any other.

(ie, pretty awful)

xp

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

unavoidable environmental catastrophe looming

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

none of the things that have gotten better in America in the last 30 years have to do with the political establishment,

lol is this some kind of self-parody cuz this is totally a right-wing talking point

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

also environmental catastrophe was totally avoidable (not so much anymore unfortunately)

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

tell us how our 31 years of Reaganism have brought about the Enlightenment, SMC.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

the core of the morbsian conservative philosophy isnt as he claims evaluating the moral consequences of actions, its using morality to negate any helpful actions, painting the world w/a v large brown brush thereby eliminating the need to engage w/complexity or ambiguity

if youre ralph nadar you might get a pass for doing something ungodly

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

today's poll is running 96% yes on the question of "Does Romney Need to Take the Gloves Off?"

what were the results for "Will taking the gloves off hurt Romney's hands really bad?"

your friend, (Z S), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

why did the DNC apologize for the horse ad I'm confused

tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

The Famous Mr. Ed threw a fit.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

"helpful actions" will have little to do with this election.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

They found out later the horse was a big contributor.

clemenza, Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

I think you mean "crony"

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

#crony2012

LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

my little crony

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

"helpful actions" will have little to do with this election.

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:14 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what color is the sun dr morbs, the sun is brown

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

oof. would gates himself been taken in a con like that?

goole, Thursday, 19 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

well, he did keep ballmer in power

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Thursday, 19 July 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link


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