Angel Haze

WOW at "Werkin' Girls".

like a cheetah in a jungle but i'm muthafuckin faster
like a pre-teen boy in a church with a pastor

i be on that other shit, got that from my other bitch
she come from an island or a desert or some TUNDRA SHIT

Tundra shit is great yeah

Best thing I've heard in a while I'm thinking. Real "R.P.M." vibes.

I think I only like a few tracks from this. Too much DEEP THOUGHTS Angel Haze, which I've never had much use for.

otm

DEEP THOUGHTS angel haze is what makes her special though imo - my favourite trax are also the bangers but without the DEEP THOUGHTS trax she's just another fast-tongued swag rapper with an ear for a simile.

Yeah I agree with that - or, well, I haven't really thought about like the status of Angel Haze as a rapper, but certainly on this the tunes like "Gypsy Letters" and "Castle on a Cloud" really set off my actual favourites like "Workin' Girls" and "New York".

I'm having a very Lex phase at the moment - playing this and Melanie Fiona a lot.

"at the moment"

I'm rather behind but really looking forward to this, Altered Ego was great.

Yeah, but the DEEP THOUGHTS tracks completely bore the fuck out of me. She doesn't at all succeed in making me give a fuck about her deep thoughts.

If Fall for Your Type and Things Money Can Buy didn't give you feelings I don't know that any of the DEEP THOUGHTS Haze on Reservation will change your mind.

lex, there's now a one month period before you're allowed to complain about people not paying enough attention to angel haze

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16883-reservation-ep/

If Fall for Your Type and Things Money Can Buy didn't give you feelings I don't know that any of the DEEP THOUGHTS Haze on Reservation will change your mind.

― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, July 23, 2012 3:20 PM Bookmark

ftr, they did not

WOW at "Werkin' Girls".

― Tim F, Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:46 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this song is awesome. this tape is pretty hit or miss to me, was surprised to see jordan gave it an 8 on pfork

this is why caring about pfork scores is a lose lose, though; i want to see rap not suffer from deflation, but when that's corrected, it makes it look like this album is as good as flockaveli. lose-lose

It is as good as flockaveli (which I also love)

Really excellent write-up jordan

Also b/c it's jordan it's not really a "pfork score" is it (as with a select few other writers on that site)

It's maybe a bit unbalanced (possibly too much emo, especially towards the end) but I really like 'Wicked Moon', 'New York', 'Werkin' Girls', 'Gypsy Letters' and the second half of 'Jungle Fever'. Not sure she really varies her flow as much as she could on the slower tracks and some of them feel kinda rote.

Really surprised that I actually like 'Wicked Moon' given that there are a load of signifiers in there that I usually can't stand but they're actually arranged in a way that feels atmospheric rather than just schlocky, and both Angel and Nicole sound great on it.

someone please tell me what song the melody at the end of 'jungle fever' is quoting/biting please?

It is as good as flockaveli (which I also love)

― lex pretend, Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:10 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

get outta here

for once do you want to defend your position rather than acting like other people are talking like the earth is flat?

yeah i don't agree w/ that and i'm not necessarily sure that it's a position that requires a defense

they're very different works that aren't directly comparable but they're as "accomplished" as each other and they'll probably both end up in my top 10 of the year

wait are you talking about the new flocka album?

...no?

i forgot that existed (and therefore to listen to it more than once) amidst all of my computer woes

oh

i'm confused by "they'll probably both end up in my top 10 of the year" then

as in, flockaveli did (i think?) and reservation probably will

ok i gotta listen to this then. i checker her out before but it sounded like atomsphere idk

atmosphere over drake beats

Also, y'know, the two reviews are by different writers with different opinions and not working to some empirical scale.

the two writers are both posting in this thread! i was about to go into more detail but it prob violates something in my freelance contract so w/e its not important

It probably wouldn't be so much of an issue if people didn't habitually assume that pitchfork was in fact a single mind carefully calibrating each of its numerical scores.

Great write up Jordan! Makes me appreciate this release a bit more. Certainly New York and Werkin Girls are awesome.

"It is as good as flockaveli"

lulz

someone please tell me what song the melody at the end of 'jungle fever' is quoting/biting please?

nobody? it's killing me.

this is why caring about pfork scores is a lose lose, though; i want to see rap not suffer from deflation, but when that's corrected, it makes it look like this album is as good as flockaveli. lose-lose

― google deeznuts (D-40), Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2012 15:38 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

flockaveli is like a 9 tho

You do realise you guys are coming across like those insufferable dicks who read a Rolling Stone review of, I dunno, The-Dream and go "this means you think it's as good as Dark Side Of The Moon oh the outrage!"

^^^^

current rap criticism is largely THE WORST for assuming the existence of an objective and rigorously policed set of assumptions that determine whether an artist is any good

eg "lol @ your opinion, but we don't need to justify or explain ours because EVERYONE KNOWS IT TO BE SO"

You do realise you guys are coming across like those insufferable dicks who read a Rolling Stone review of, I dunno, The-Dream and go "this means you think it's as good as Dark Side Of The Moon oh the outrage!"

― Matt DC, Friday, July 27, 2012 10:44 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you really think that's the case when the two authors of both reviews are actually here, posting

current rap criticism is largely THE WORST for assuming the existence of an objective and rigorously policed set of assumptions that determine whether an artist is any good

― lex pretend, Friday, July 27, 2012 10:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

current lex criticism is largely THE WORST for using the exact same 'u must be a rockist' argument always. i don't think anyone here is in favor of strict rigorous assumptions of artists' value.

at least i used an argument at all?

someone please tell me what song the melody at the end of 'jungle fever' is quoting/biting please?

nobody? it's killing me.

― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, July 27, 2012 8:24 AM Bookmark

the Stevie Wonder song of the same title

oh wait, nm

All im gonna say about angel haze v flockaveli is that at least waka never made me listen to a Kool AD verse

oh duh, of course that's it, thx rev

"eg "lol @ your opinion, but we don't need to justify or explain ours because EVERYONE KNOWS IT TO BE SO"

― lex pretend"

well what you want me to say when you're comparing an half good mixtape from a promising rapper with a genre defining classic rap album dropped on a major label ?

lol @ the idea that the major label bit matters

Don't know if it was mentioned on here anywhere, but Angel Haze is now called Roes

https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/pansexual-rapper-angel-haze-officially-changed-name/

Classic classic classic

strong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOycRO6mabo

I have been jamming out to that for most of 2021

hell yeah

very nice

that's great, nice to see she's back, had she sort of dropped out for a while?

i think she poisoned the water a while back by dropping her album online without coordinating with her label.
https://www.mtv.com/news/1719290/angel-haze-dirty-gold-album-leak/

also that album was kind of bad