Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

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it took Nixon to go to China.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

true story, nixon is high highly regarded by chinese people :/

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Friday, 27 July 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link

hehehe

http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/drone-court-advantage/

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Indeed, Reid notes they’re the sort that, at a loss to explain record corporate profits — bye bye, Bush recession — turn to arguing “the government’s use of drones and waging of covert wars and the drug war are the most pressing problems facing the planet.”

http://blog.reidreport.com/2012/01/on-bullying-glenn-greenwald-and-the-nun-rape-smear/

gee I wonder why they chose that column to quote out of context. Mysterious.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 27 July 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

jeez, that new inquiry thing is labored.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 27 July 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link

House and Senate leaders are nearing a temporary spending deal that would keep the federal government running for the first half of the next fiscal year, which will begin in October, aides in both parties said Monday, an effort to avoid a messy government shutdown fight on the eve of the November election.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congressional-leaders-near-deal-to-keep-government-running/2012/07/30/gJQA9ryWLX_story.html?hpid=z1

This would be no fun!

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

lemme guess, more cuts to random shit, no taxes, still running huge deficits

Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

yep

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

Cornyn also noted that just because he wants to see the memo doesn't mean he'd necessarily disagree with its contents.

lol no kidding

still if it's something of an unintended consequence of this shameless partisan posturing that these memos are made public, that's a good thing

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

the sub headline is "But if they get it, they won't be allowed to show it to you."

you're all going to hello (Z S), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

regular Americans should know what kind of conduct could lead to them being blown up by a deadly flying robot

kind of sad that I lived to see this sentence in a news story tbh

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

just wait until other countries get deadly flying robots and they engage in battle with ours! that'll be so fun for everyone!

you're all going to hello (Z S), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/01/dont_chant_u_s_a/

It's liberal Americans' Olympic dilemma: How do they root for their countrymen without being jingoistic?

shit like this is why ppl hate liberals

Mordy, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, bcz they watch the Olympics

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

The President’s lethargy on the matter of judicial nominations is inexplicable. So is his silence on the subject. George W. Bush complained loudly when he felt Democrats in the Senate had delayed or obstructed his judicial nominees. Obama has said little. Indeed, Bush had a public judicial philosophy as President, frequently calling on judges to “strictly apply the Constitution and laws, not legislate from the bench.” As a former president of the Harvard Law Review and long-time lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School, Obama has a great deal of familiarity with legal issues but hardly ever talks about them. His legal philosophy, if he has one, is unknown.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2012/07/why-judges-matter.html

http://plainblogaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/2012/07/catch-of-day_31.html?m=0

The one culprit I'd add here, on top of the Republicans and Obama, are liberal activists and interest group leaders, who in many cases (not all!) just ignored the problem.

Does blaming liberal activists and interest group leaders on this issue make sense? Would that have made a difference during the first 2 years of the Obama administration? Would it now?

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

shit like this is why ppl hate liberals

― Mordy, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:07 (6 hours ago) Permalink

yeah, bcz they watch the Olympics

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:10 (6 hours ago) Permalink

televised sports, familiar bastion of liberaldom.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

confusing rooting for the home team with 'jingoism' is so fucking ridiculous

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

"But if they get it, they won't be allowed to show it to you."

As long as there's some kind of accountability...

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

It is jingoism.

bamcquern, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link

jin·go·ism noun \ˈjiŋ-(ˌ)gō-ˌi-zəm\
Definition of JINGOISM
: extreme chauvinism or nationalism marked especially by a belligerent foreign policy

k3vin k., Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link

"marked especially" you secret republican

bamcquern, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

Plus you're gonna copy-paste the dictionary at me?

bamcquern, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

whoa guys fire up the DVR cuz Seacrest is gonna give us an update on what social media was saying about Phelps last night

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link

u guys this fucking segment

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

oh no. u weren't joking and now i am watching it.

Mordy, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

"pretty cool to get a tweet from the president"

Mordy, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

televised sports, familiar bastion of liberaldom

most of the man-boys on here are liberals, and I'd say more than half like sports

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link

lol, u must be anticipating the zing

Mordy, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

they're americans. Americans love sports.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:35 (eleven years ago) link

everyone loves sports tbh

k3vin k., Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link

Plus you're gonna copy-paste the dictionary at me?

a completely legit strategy when the meaning of words is under dispute man

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:39 (eleven years ago) link

everyone loves sports tbh

*AHEM*

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ why shakey is my bro

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

xxp If it meant, like, "dog" or something it would be fine. But if I and Slate dude and my friend who refuses to watch a minute of the Olympics coverage because of its jingoism think jingoism is (not necessarily exclusively) something in the ballpark of "nationalist chauvinism to an excessive degree," then throwing up a definition like that is failed pedantry. Which I expect from Kevin K. And you sometimes, too, tbh, even though you're an extremely smart, articulate guy.

bamcquern, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

That language essentialist bent of Kevin's is something he has in common with his buddy Antonin Scalia.

bamcquern, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know if rooting for an athlete ONLY bcz they're from your country is jingoistic, but it is senseless, but then so is rooting for laundry.

This whole "hallowed" thing around the Olympics is the unfathomable part. It's mostly crass showbiz.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

so was the parthenon!

goole, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

But if I and Slate dude and my friend who refuses to watch a minute of the Olympics coverage because of its jingoism think jingoism is (not necessarily exclusively) something in the ballpark of "nationalist chauvinism to an excessive degree," then throwing up a definition like that is failed pedantry.we are wrong.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

lie down and tell us more about your 'friend', bamcquern

k3vin k., Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

That language essentialist bent of Kevin's is something he has in common with his buddy Antonin Scalia.

looool

explaining to you how you're using a word wrong is not and will never be "essentialism" of any kind

thanks for playing

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

question*: if rooting for your country in the olympics is 'nationalist chauvinism to an excessive degree' than what are some examples of nationalist sentiment that aren't to an excessive degree?

*nb i don't really care about the answer

Mordy, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

USA rules, bamcquern drools

max, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

then*

Mordy, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

my one pet peeve about definition beefs is when someone cut and pastes one definition and excludes the other definitions that don't fit their argument (often from the same fucking dictionary)

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

my one pet peeve about definition beefs is when someone cut and pastes one definition and excludes the other definitions that don't fit their argument (often from the same fucking dictionary)

well, but...the use of a word tends to be in one of several definitions where multiple definitions exist; it's ok to quote the salient part of the definition of "level" if the argument's about architecture and not, say, video games

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

or layers of meaning

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

guys

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link


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