damn, for some reason i couldn't get that rat-pelt dress picture to show up. maybe a moderator can add it.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:33 (eleven years ago) link
i couldn't even save that picture to my computer. the times is tricky.
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/07/27/arts/design/20120727-RATS-4.html
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/07/26/garden/26TWENTIES_SPAN/26TWENTIES-articleLarge.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
she needs to come along for the ride.
Across the table Mr. Hutchings gnawed on a rat bone, pronouncing it delicious. The dinner delivered on its once-in-a-lifetime promise. “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/07/27/arts/27RATS_SPAN/27RATS_SPAN-articleLarge.jpg
For Ms. Ginn skinning and eating rats represents the survivalist instincts she likes to explore in her work. “To have these sorts of skills, it’s very empowering,” she said. “It makes me feel like I have more control over my world.”
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
Cheryl Westchester Cty
It reminds me a bit of the Woman Warrior ( Maxine Kingston) description of the narrator's mother as a Great Eater, one who could literally and figuratively eat any dish set before her without the slightest expression of fear or disgust. But in a setting of extreme comfort, and the best condiments and disguises for the purchased rats, it doesn't seem to signify anything. Now, if all the rats had been "wild raised" in NYC and caught by the participants, that would be a better story... Or perhaps if different rats had been trapped in different restaurants, again, we could compare the effects of different restaurant fare on their taste.... Overall, ick.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
jg San Francisco
How is this any different from the sensationalism of TV Shows like Fear Factor. Rats are disgusting and only eaten in the worst of times. They are in fact disease ridden and thoroughly disgusting. Why does this generation insist on destroying paradigms or structures without any sensible or tangible replacements. Did they learn nothing from the Baby Boomers and the "Me" generation? I hate everything about this from it's pettiness to its barbarism to the sensationalistic and cynical nature of it. Rich people eating rats. Rich indeed.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
comments get really real:
Sami Long Beach, CA
This can be seen as the expected result of the gentrification of New York that has been occurring for the past 20 years or so. Rats, formerly associated with urban squalor, became reified as a kind of aesthetic signifier of "authentic" New York-ness by the post-collegiate hordes of mostly white middle class young people who flocked to places like Williamsburg in the late 90s and early 2000s. These people were ravenous for real urban life, and embraced the rat as a component of a lifestyle they sought - even as their (the gentrifiers) increasing presence destroyed that same reality by displacing working class residents and communities that had been associated with the presence of rats during the Reagan era of urban decline. This event combines the role that art plays in the gentrification process with the gentrifiers obsession with "local" food culture in an ironic glorification of their (Pyrrhic) conquest of the "urban."
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:07 (eleven years ago) link
something about eating rats that really pisses people off.
sorry, link: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/27/arts/design/dinner-at-an-exhibition-rat-prepared-many-ways.html?ref=dining
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
Sometimes I feel like the cycle of trolling and being trolled has just become a ritual for the Times style sections, like the commenters are just this chorus of people who "come to boo"
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
I mean that's what we are, basically
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
ya they know what theyre doin
― lag∞n, Friday, 27 July 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
SamiLong Beach, CA
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 04:07 (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^ rad
― , Blogger (schlump), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
I think we can't totally discount the possibility that this artist is trolling us too, like basically going for what that commenter is describing? I mean “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
that sounds like trolling
i don't know, do you think that psychiatrists think their case studies are interesting as human beings, or just... interesting...?
― j., Friday, 27 July 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this wasn't the artist, this was one of the guests
this seems totally fine to me tbh
― thomp, Friday, 27 July 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
i hope that they get the plague and die.
― KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 29 July 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/automobiles/autoreviews/you-cant-beat-it-with-a-stick.html
Priced from $26,795, this is the ILX that screams “compromise” at the top of its little 2-liter lungs, with standard cloth seats and just 150 breathless horses from a version of the Civic engine.
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, 29 July 2012 06:53 (eleven years ago) link
the ILX seems limited to fans of zing-it-yourself compacts at a relatively high price.
― undermikey: bidness (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 29 July 2012 07:01 (eleven years ago) link
too much time on nyt
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
http://storify.com/jcstearns/lessons-from-the-fake-new-york-times-wikileaks-op
― lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
hey, in the interest of fair play, i read that article about the girl tavi who had the fashion blog and now has the rookie site and she seems cool and her site looks great and smart.
don't want to hate every young person in the new york times. makes me feel bad.
"in the spirit of sassy magazine" is always a good move. plus, john waters loves her and that's good enough for me.
wish more websites looked like the rookie site for real! so easy to read and navigate and pleasant to look at.
http://rookiemag.com/
― scott seward, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
ya tavi is awesome
― lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
yep rookie is great and i wish i was as cool and smart at 28 as tavi is at 15/16
― Roz, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
nothing to hate about tavi.
― wmlynch, Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
Rookie is great and I wish it was there to read when I was 12+ years old. So much better than so many teen girl mags.
― Crabbits, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
LONG ILX THREADS HATE THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK:
1. Click on the Permalink of the message right after the cutoff.
2. The URL will now contain something like "bookmarkedmessageid=3669956"
3. Change that number to something smaller and you will be jumped back to an earlier point in the thread without loading the whole thing.
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, July 27, 2012 12:52 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark
I feel dumb for not having thought of doing this myself!
― Je55e, Friday, 3 August 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link
i tried it on the long orig breaking bad thread & it didnt seem 2 work
― johnny crunch, Friday, 3 August 2012 12:18 (eleven years ago) link
Which part didn't work? The only maybe tricky part is that if you don't make that number small enough, you won't get any older messages. And if you make that number too small you'll be at the first messages. Usually lowering it by thousands or ten-thousands is enough.
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 3 August 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
i have tried it and it worked
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
What I do with a long thread is open it at my bookmarked spot and then hit permalink on the first post while the rest is loading.
― Moodles, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
fyi you can also click on the permalink for the last post before the fold and then just click “view previous page"
― 1staethyr, Friday, 3 August 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
View Previous Page has only ever worked sporadically for me.
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 3 August 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
i enjoy that scott is all 'that tavi girl'
― thomp, Friday, 3 August 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, August 3, 2012 4:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Saturday, 4 August 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/nyregion/four-men-sharing-rent-and-friendship-for-18-years.html
men. living together.
― goole, Saturday, 4 August 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
i was looking for a thread on like manchildren or something to post this on but i guess this is close enough because lol nytimes not so much these guys are the ruling class
― buzza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
"Shyaporn Theerakulstit, actor and audiobook narrator"
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 August 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/fashion/montauk-feels-the-effects-of-too-many-hipsters.html
In the meantime, longtime residents are left to harken back to that first crowd that had to endure an invasion of newcomers, the Montauket tribe. As Mr. Devlin’s wife, Eileen, joked on Friday as the restaurant prepared for another busy night, “Now I know how the Indians felt.”
Nope. No you don't.
― Playoff Starts Here (san lazaro), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link
it notes clearly that she was joking
― lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:16 (eleven years ago) link
yah what gives
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link
Another showed a rifle and the words “Defend Montauk.”
printing hipster shirts against hipsters u might be a hipster
― lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
also isnt the fedora more of a broish affectation
― goole, Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:57 PM
this was hilarious! The comments, though, are mostly horrifying.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
quiddities thread has made me insensitive to the real articles, i want all the stupid setup cut so i can get right to the aughs
― j., Sunday, 5 August 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
so by hipster they just mean young money?
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Sunday, 5 August 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/aXnRN.jpg
well
― lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
If by hipster you mean a person that doesn't just jump on the patriotic bandwagon, then sure.
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Sunday, 5 August 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I don't know how much to read into the choice of passive or active voice.
― jmm, Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:27 (one week ago) link
I knew (or heard of) a neighbor around here with a little lap pool. It generates a current to swim against, so it's basically just the tiny pool equivalent of a treadmill. It's in a heated garage. The picture in that (ridiculous) article implies this is more of a long skinny outdoor pool, which is extra stupid, because that means they can't use it 3/4 of the year.
Who names their fucking house(s)?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:39 (one week ago) link
x-post - I have driven that road many times and it's terrifying at night out where they were. Completely pitch black and nothing but farms on either side for lots of it and people speed like crazy. I hated driving it at night.
I like when people name their houses. Where I grew up in the summer it was really common. One of the people on my street had one named Witt's End because their last name was Witt. I always thought that was cute. Their son was Paul-Junger Witt who produced the Golden Girls!
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:19 (one week ago) link
people likes their houses to look nice before instagram, fyi
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:33 (one week ago) link
I knew (or heard of) a neighbor around here with a little lap pool. It generates a current to swim against, so it's basically just the tiny pool equivalent of a treadmill. It's in a heated garage.
sounds like a swim spa.
https://www.sfspas.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/HP18-Swim-Spa-Jodie-Swim-Front-Stroke-Image21-FNL-3-1024x576.jpg
My in-laws have one, although they just use it like a hot tub. But it's WIDE enough to swim, if you wanted to. The pool in the picture looks like you'd be banging elbows on concrete.
― peace, man, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:36 (one week ago) link
"people liked their houses to look nice before instagram"
"people named their houses where i summered"
such comments imply that such people as featured in the article are innocuous. they are not, and they deserve scorn.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:50 (one week ago) link
Naming your house is like getting vanity plates on your car, except that no one is naming their house SMITHFAM or HESRISEN or EATSPPL or whatever. But maybe they should.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:50 (one week ago) link
yeah they look like the typical 5-star-reviewed airbnb
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:55 (one week ago) link
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:56 (one week ago) link
xpost Clearly you didn't read the article:
And they kept it bare: “When you’re going from one location to the next, you’re always bringing this stuff with you, and you don’t want to be surrounded by stuff. You just want to be in a place that’s welcoming and clean.” That made it easy when they decided to rent it out through online booking sites.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:57 (one week ago) link
They should have filled each house with adorable little dogs.
They could call it "The Dog House."
The concept of naming your house seems incredibly pretentious to me, but I considered it when my daughter became familiar with the concept and insisted that we should name our house "The turtle house". She also wants us to get a vanity plate for our car which says "TURTLE".
― silverfish, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:04 (one week ago) link
I'm wondering if the firewood in the TV stand is for actual use. That sounds like a mess of bark, wood chips, dust, and cables.
― jmm, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:08 (one week ago) link
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, April 11, 2024 10:50 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I didn't say "summered". I would literally never use that; it's obnoxious and pompous. We had a summer house because my parents owned a seasonal business there and they built that house for less than 20k. A lot of the named houses there were very small with some being shacks. Not all named houses are Saltburn style mansions. Not trying to excuse the ppl in the article at all - they sound unbearable. Still think named houses can be cute.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:19 (one week ago) link
Naming houses is rich ppl shit but also it’s free and anyone can do it if they want.(or it’s five bucks to buy a sign that says DUNROAMIN to put by the front door.)
― bae (sic), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:27 (one week ago) link
“Keep Away By Court Order”
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:30 (one week ago) link
near our house on marthas vineyard was a road called Goa Way.
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:35 (one week ago) link
my grandparents had a named house. Seagull! it was a beautiful house. actually, when we moved to the Vineyard we lived in a tiny house owned my Maria's grandmother and it was called Wood's Edge. it was...600 square feet? maybe a little bigger. so, no mansion.
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:37 (one week ago) link
I was just pushing back against the dichotomy of “instagram house” vs “disorganized houses or whatever jeez, i hate rich people too
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:39 (one week ago) link
xpost - Maybe it's an east coast island thing. I was talking about Fire Island which has a similar vibe to MV just more gays and no cars. Yes, obv it's largely a rich people thing but not always and in beachy places it can be very cute. I bet Seagull was gorgeous.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:41 (one week ago) link
we have, like, no backyard where we live. we do have a lovely ravine or "dingle" if you will way back behind our house for when we want to commune with mosquitos. but i have fantasized if i ever had the money to build a kinda long tiny house on our tiny yard and put one of those long lap pools in it! and have the tiny house be heated. a tiny pool house. i hate going to the river to get into water. that is the full extent of my rich people dreams. other than making our big attic into a real room where i can put all my books and records. because most of my books are in boxes in the attic. but we never have extra money.
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:42 (one week ago) link
Seagull got bought by a super-rich guy and he totally made it twice the size and all weird looking. it was right on the water. long island sound.
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:43 (one week ago) link
:( Of course he did.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:47 (one week ago) link
Perfect description of the aesthetic. I like how there are no visible books or cultural ephemera or decoration you can’t get at a West Elm, or evidence of an inner life.― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, April 11, 2024 9:55 AM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Right. It would probably make a good separate thread, but it's like there are always a handful of vague signifiers of quirk or hipness but nothing that points to a particular person with a particular personality living there. Which I guess makes sense for an airbnb, because it has to straddle the line between being homey like a house and impersonal like a hotel. Guests don't want to feel like they're intruding in someone else's home. But to actually make your own house that way is so fucking weird.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:48 (one week ago) link
My many bookshelves are covered in dust, as they should be.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:51 (one week ago) link
TBC my earlier post was meant in a self-deprecating way and I'm not suggesting wanting your house to be neat is a bad thing
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:58 (one week ago) link
lol I’m sorry I totally misread your tone
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:07 (one week ago) link
Let us not forget the son named “McKenzie”. (How did that become one of the most popular child names?)
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland)
It happened . . . one day at a time.
― nickn, Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:21 (one week ago) link
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:33 (one week ago) link
Nothing wrong with trying to stay neat. As a bachelor I gave up, now that I’m a married man in a new home I am making a bit of an effort (it helps my spouse is a clean person who tries to declutter).
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:34 (one week ago) link
_Let us not forget the son named “McKenzie”. (How did that become one of the most popular child names?)― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland)_It happened . . . one day at a time.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:35 (one week ago) link
lotta tree names where we live. willow. cedar.
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:49 (one week ago) link
dylan and jaden waning though...
― scott seward, Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:49 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink[
Aww! My family house where we grew up was named "The Cedars" long before we got there. It was sweet. No one called it that, there was just a very picturesque old plaque on the gate to the driveway.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 11 April 2024 17:19 (one week ago) link
My mum's house in devon has a name. Last time I sent her a package the lady at a midtown USPS rolled her eyes at me when she had to copy out the address.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 April 2024 17:56 (one week ago) link
This Daily ep about Mexican cartels doing timeshare fraud is quite something. I cannot stop thinking about the retired state cop who sent this supposed Mexican businessman a million bucks, his entire retirement savings PLUS money he had to borrow! because he's a retired law enforcement official who "has a pretty good sense about people." Do you though. And of course his wife "had doubts" but the little lady doesn't handle their money.
People who defraud seniors are evil, beneath contempt--no question. But this is a funny case for the NYT to choose to cover.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 12 April 2024 14:43 (one week ago) link
And by funny I mean it's very NYT of them.
Well it sounds like an entertaining story at least, I want to listen to it now
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 12 April 2024 15:32 (one week ago) link
calling my house* "dunpoastin (i will never be dunpoastin)"
*flat
― mark s, Friday, 12 April 2024 15:51 (one week ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLaQqXxWEAAm-yC?format=jpg&name=small
― mookieproof, Friday, 19 April 2024 00:20 (eleven hours ago) link
Too on the nose. WSJ?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 19 April 2024 00:29 (ten hours ago) link
indeed
― mookieproof, Friday, 19 April 2024 00:30 (ten hours ago) link
It is funny how the WSJ is so much more openly ruling class, whereas the NYT tries to hide it a bit.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, January 8, 2024 4:12 PM (three months ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yeah, its a bit obvious when the WSJ weekly real estate section is called "Mansion", no beating around the bush.
― o. nate, Monday, January 8, 2024 4:35 PM (three months ago) bookmarkflaglink
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 19 April 2024 00:33 (ten hours ago) link
I have to admit, it's a really nice house
https://www.architecturaldigest.com/gallery/inside-the-sag-harbor-home-of-interior-designer-bryan-graybill
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 19 April 2024 00:38 (ten hours ago) link
meanwhile, the post is aghast that the CEO of a major media organization spent . . . $2.7m on a 'sprawling' brooklyn townhouse
https://i.imgur.com/1oXP6Wr.jpeg
sorry, i know these aren't precisely NYT quiddities but NYC real estate coverage is so insane
― mookieproof, Friday, 19 April 2024 00:40 (ten hours ago) link
there are brownstones on my block going for twice that
― mookieproof, Friday, 19 April 2024 00:42 (ten hours ago) link
Same people that piss and moan about Bernie "Socialist" Sanders living well.
― nickn, Friday, 19 April 2024 01:18 (ten hours ago) link
you're right, she's just like us
― budo jeru, Friday, 19 April 2024 02:26 (eight hours ago) link