http://www.flinnsci.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=22361
like this is quite high-end and the price reflects the fact that a civil servant is going to purchase this for other people (like the thousand dollar toilet seat)
but you can find used models online for half that or less
― the late great, Friday, 27 July 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
also it's an integrated kit w/ a fancy housing that hides all the fidgety parts so as little messing w/ insides as possible (appropriate for primary and secondary school settings)
but you can buy all that shit separately w/ bare leads sticking out and wire it up yourself, nail to roof, etc
― the late great, Friday, 27 July 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
fascinating! I'll have a look. it would be a pricy hobby but uh we're on the mac thread so
― Euler, Friday, 27 July 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
i think like astronomy or a bike it's a fat initial investment followed but then relatively cheap and you can sink mad time into it for free
― the late great, Friday, 27 July 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
as opposed to an actually pricey hobby like golf
or helicopter acrobatics
― the late great, Friday, 27 July 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
also weather is a fascinating and complex science that is still in infancy, i find it hard to wrap my head around it even though i can pv = nrt in my head like a champ.
― the late great, Friday, 27 July 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I just bought a book on weather (isbn 0226898989) that I've been reading at the library for a while, & it's such a deep subject...but like I dunno molecular gastronomy it concerns pretty day-to-day stuff. plus data! lots of data!
― Euler, Friday, 27 July 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
& the math is badly understood right now; hydrodynamics is soooo poorly developed, b/c the equations are so damn complex
ah, good 'ol PerVNeRT
― Nhex, Friday, 27 July 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
it's not easy to fit data to ten different nonlinear PDEs at once especially w/ phase changes and shit
that's what physical oceanography was like
― the late great, Friday, 27 July 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
it's fun to be able to look at the barometer / hygrometer / thermometer and a map and know which way the wind will be blowing tomorrow but i still need to be looking at a meteorology-for-dummies book while i think it through
― the late great, Friday, 27 July 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
can you recommend a good meteorology-for-dummies book?
― Euler, Friday, 27 July 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/Weather-Golden-Guide-Paul-Lehr/dp/1582381593
http://www.amazon.com/Living-By-Chemistry-Weather-Preliminary/dp/1559537027
http://ocw.mit.edu/high-school/physics/kinetic-theory-thermodynamics/ideal-gases/
still looking for some more rigorous lower division stuff that is not theory but is actual meteorology ... that MIT high school link could be community college out here
i need to look at earth science resources but that i am a college prep teacher and kids don't learn that after sixth grade here so i'm not sure where to look
the NOAA and scripps oceanography has links but those are also geared toward climate change rather than practical meteorology
unfortunately the connection between praxis andĀ use is getting really tenuous (cf apple computers)
― the late great, Friday, 27 July 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
RE: Peak, I've never fully understood those programs when most current DAW software has all of those features, plust the ability to have multi-tracking, which I find very useful. I use Digital Performer, and I often bring in different versions of the same track so I can A/B them. Mastered vs unmastered, restored vs unrestored etc.
― dan selzer, Friday, 27 July 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
doesn't logic have a way to do these things?
― the late great, Friday, 27 July 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
i would think apple would work like adobe maybe and keep adding side apps to handle these side tasks
thanks Dan, I will check those out. I really just need a straight WAV editor, won't be using multitrack. I did occasionally use Peak to A/B old vs. remastered versions.
― sleeve, Friday, 27 July 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not sure, but I think the major DAW programs (Logic, Pro Tools, Digital Performer etc) should be able to do everything Peak did, plus quite a bit that you'll never need, but maybe a few things you'll like. Adobe Audition I think is their audio engineering program. There are cheaper WAV editors. I actually use a cheap program called Fission all the time. Open up an mp3, chop it up, normalize it real quick, fade in/out etc. Wavs or MP3s.
― dan selzer, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
ooh Fission looks perfect, thank you. I'll check it out this weekend.
― sleeve, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
Garageband is another cheap option for that kind of editing.
― Brad C., Friday, 27 July 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
Wave Editor is another option I keep handy for that sort of thing.
― Millsner, Friday, 27 July 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
really understanding the weather is the effing best and i recommend it to everyone.
― caek, Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
i did atmospheric physics as an undergrad but i learnt far more "pracctical weather forecasting" once i started doing observational astronomy. just getting used to clouds, and familiar with the relevant ranges of pressure, dew point, humidity, etc. and looking at local radar/infrared cams
― caek, Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link
u + k: http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconusir.html
― caek, Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's one of those things (like celestial mechanics or hobby electronics) where you have to experience the phenomena to really get a sense for how it works beyond just some jargon and basic understandings
― the late great, Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
I shoulda been a meteor(ologist)
― catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 28 July 2012 05:05 (eleven years ago) link
I should do that because I already think about the weather all the time anyway
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Saturday, 28 July 2012 06:17 (eleven years ago) link
some people walk through adiabatic condensation in anĀ airmass saturated with water vapor, others just get wet
― the late great, Saturday, 28 July 2012 06:24 (eleven years ago) link
meteorologists do it... in an airmass saturated with water vapor
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Saturday, 28 July 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
while this thread is up, can someone recommend a WAV editor program for the Mac that is like Peak but is not Audacity? I am happy to pay money for it, but BIAS just went out of business so I can't buy a new copy of Peak LE.
I use Amadeus. The pro version is expensive, but it's been indispensable. http://www.hairersoft.com/index.html
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 28 July 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
60 bucks isn't expensive for those kinds of features, if it works well. Looks like a good program for a lot of uses. It's not going to replace whatever they're using in mastering studios or whatever, but for home purposes...
― dan selzer, Saturday, 28 July 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Reaper is amazing, and is basically pay-if-you-like, with no restrictions.
― schwantz, Saturday, 28 July 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
Now 10.8 has twitter integration I am getting a pasword reset email from Twitter everyday saying something is trying to access my account. Can't be sure it is OS X but it only started since I upgraded.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 30 July 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
FWIW, once I had entered my Twitter account in the Mail, Contacts, & Calendars system preferences much of the integration weirdness went away.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
That sucks a bunch
― elan, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:55 (eleven years ago) link
of broccoli
― elan, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
achtung euler: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/08/07/save-as
― caek, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
is there any reason to upgrade to mountain lion?
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
if you're on lion it's less hateful? if you're on snow leopard, no
― stet, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
IF you want your battery life to take a massive hit, upgrade away.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
whoa http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/08/tests-show-mountain-lion-may-indeed-degrade-battery-life/
― caek, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
Some users in Apple's forums reported potential fixes, including repairing disk permissions
christ those forums are the pits
― stet, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
lol yeah i nearly stopped reading at that point
― caek, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
I just started laughing so hard I almost choked when I read that, thanks stet
― your native bacon (mh), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
btw mountain lion is awesome and all the swipey motions on the trackpad are even better with added NOTIFICATION CENTER SWIPE
I've also noticed, oddly, that it seems to be more intelligent about when to put my laptop to sleep compared to Lion?
― your native bacon (mh), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
uggh @ that "save as" thing, I have already used it but did not notice
because of "Versions" I'm not screwed but still
― Euler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
surely the same thing happens even when you DON'T "save as"?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
i.e. if you just close the document?