Pretend you have a ballot for the 2012 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

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Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

I just think film critics should aspire to being more than music critics who don't hear so well.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

didn't know the S&S critics from '62 were music critics in cineaste clothing

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

i like ranked all-time lists.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

I think you should let people play the games they want to play, Morbs.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

knock yerself out

'62 critics had half as many films to deal with.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

i like ranked all-time lists.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:36 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which are your ten favourite

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

There's no way to stop it,
No, there's no way to stop it,
If the earth wants to roll around the sun.
You're a fool if you worry.
You're a fool if you worry,
Over anything but little number one.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/2012/07/if-i-had-a-sight-sound-film-ballot/

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

are there any more Special Projects to come this summer, besides the one I'm 3 weeks late on? Possibly a "Call Me Maybe" lipsync?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

I already said by email I would participate in 2022.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

Pssssssh, My goal by 2022 is to have a real ballot.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

wha, now that you've practically quit?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

I've quit caring about the actual criticism. I haven't quit writing it.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

< / sarcasm > < / obv >

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

which are your ten favourite

― , Blogger (schlump), Monday, July 30, 2012 7:58 PM (16 minutes ago)

i posted mine up-thread, probably wouldn't change it much now.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

After Death (Bauer, 15)
The Scarlet Empress (Von Sternberg, 34)
L'eclisse (Antonioni, 61)
La Jetee (Marker, 62)
Simon of the Desert (Bunuel, 65)
Weekend (Godard, 67)
Pink Narcissus (Bidgood, 71)
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Hooper, 74)
Satantango (Tarr, 94)
Showgirls (Verhoeven, 95)
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 6:21 AM (2 months ago)

Six of these ended up on my "if I had a ballot" ballot for House, without having even double-checked here first.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Expect the silent era to fade out of all such polls w/in 20 years.

(Even faster than cinema will.)

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

LOL, faster than cinema will fade out of movie polls? Pretty Armond, even for you.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

no, out of life

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Not as long as there are polls to keep approximately 250 movies from the entirety of movie history alive.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

what is ur favourite movie Shawshank or Avatar

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

ha i meant your fav lists
xp @ JD

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

haha! i like whichever greil marcus list it was where he listed 'germfree adolescents' as the greatest album of all time.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

in the last joan didion book a quotation was opened by a wrong-facing pair of inverted commas. a joan didion book.

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

wait wrong thread

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

but surely part of a similar decline in critical thought

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

haha! i like whichever greil marcus list it was where he listed 'germfree adolescents' as the greatest album of all time

Second Gambaccini Top 100 albums book...sorry; back to Sight & Sound.

clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

i only have the first of those books! could you post marcus's list, clemenza?

if i recall GM's list from the first book -- from 1977, i think -- was pretty unsurprising, with 'let it bleed' at the top and 'more chuck berry' somewhere in there. ('more chuck berry,' a long-forgotten collection, wound up in a surprising number of lists.)

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

I just have the first one too, but I tracked his list down here: http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/steveparker/world_critics_lists.htm. Pertinent to this thread, wish I could find the list of 10 favorite American films for the years 1968-77 he contributed to a James Monaco book...I know Across 110th Street was on there, and I think Thieves Like Us.

clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

thanks for that!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

see, NOW lock thread

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/SightSoundmag/status/230267949649371136

Eric H., Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

With almost 850 critics in the mix (!!!), I guess I don't see how the law of averages doesn't keep S&S '12 big time status quo.

Eric H., Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

Also sort of bummed that only a fraction of the lists will be in print in the magazine.

Eric H., Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

there are too many 'critics,' obviously. NOW I'm pissed I wasn't picked.

Anyway, the newbies can't reach consensus. A quarter will make batshit picks, a quarter to a half will show the same level of imagination as the annual oh-eff-sea-ess awards, and the rest will be in the middle.

Love that Elise N picked 4 comedies, as you must be. :)

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

where is The Dark Knight on your ballot?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

ignore my early morning syntax, plz

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

xpost I love diversity. It opens the door for me to be my batshit self.

Eric H., Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

NOW I'm pissed I wasn't picked.

Word on the street is that a ballot could've been had for the asking. GTK for '22.

Eric H., Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

speaking of bats

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

and hooray for the staus quo, considering the alternative.

To hear the word on the street I'd have to communicate with other writers. Doesn't happen much.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

Considering the alternative is recognizing The Magnificent Ambersons, Touch of Evil, Chimes at Midnight, F For Fake and The Trial are all roughly equally as great as Kane.

Eric H., Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

Do I need a Tweet account to follow Tweet countdowns? I don't have one.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

Eric, I think you mean Othello and The Lady from Shanghai. You might have a leg to stand on with Ambersons if we actually, you know, had the film.

F for GTFO

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

Nah, their Tweets aren't protected.

Eric H., Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

That too. Point being, the longer Citizen Kane holds the top position when there are at least a half-dozen other films from Welles alone that are of equal stature, the goofier this "status quo" continues to look.

Eric H., Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

even if I ceded your point, which of those Welleses are the troops going to rally behind? and yr chief reason for dismissing Kane seems to be that you're tired of it showing up.

Isn't it just as goofy to play musical chairs with titles for the hell of it?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

All part of the game, party animal.

Eric H., Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

yeah well, u know me. It's an echo chamber anyhow. The general public is sticking to Marvel adaptations.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

Does Chris Marker generally show up on many lists? I don't mean to be crass, but if the voting had taken place a month from now, maybe La jetée or Sans Soleil might have made it into the Top 20. Pather Panchali jumped into the Top 10 the year Ray died (though I'm not sure how close the poll was to his death in April). Immediate sentiment can be powerful when it comes to polls and awards.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link


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