the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

stephenx100    08/01/12 15:36
Underlying all of these comments is the impending race wars that this war on suburbs will cause. Nobody dares mention this and it will probably be censored by NRO's politically correct arbiters. Obama has absorbed the long standing black panther religion driven by the need to distribute the white wealth of the suburbs back to the decaying cities being run by the Zimbabwe style currupt black leaders. It is difficult to predict when the white breaking point will occur, but enough black flash mobs redistributing the black on black murder rate to encompass more white victims may define that breaking point.
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NRO's politically correct arbiters?

the long standing black panther religion driven by the need to distribute the white wealth of the suburbs back to the decaying cities being run by the Zimbabwe style currupt black leaders

it basically reads like the suburbs thread

it basically reads like doesn't

wow, totally evidence-free article there on nat'l review. i think this plan of obama's is "little known" because it exists entirely in the author's head

it basically reads like the suburbs thread

― iatee, Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:58 PM (1 hour ago)

wasn't gonna say it

black flash mobs

black flash mobs

black improv everywhere

black reddit meetup

black yelp elite event

it basically reads like the suburbs thread

Really? I missed the part with the open racism and predictions of a race war.

maybe you should go reread it I distinctly remember you declaring a race war the same day you wished cancer on all of us

i guarantee i never declared a race war. you are seriously the worst poster ever.

Redistributing the murder rate...

"Ma'am, I know you've been underprivileged when it comes to murder so we just gunned down your son. No need to thanks us, just doing our job."

if anyone wants to go look at what a race war declaration looks like go read the suburbs thread, I swear to god, jon declared the war of all wars

what the fuck is your problem?

I don't have any problem I just disagree w/ the idea that cancer and race wars can solve all our problems

mods, can i request that iatee be permabanned for making an accusation like that?

i mean, what the actual fuck.

you take it to the mod request forum, iatee take it to the suburban race war thread and this goes back to being about romneyshambles

you're right, sorry for derailing thread.

oh god not *another* race war thread

plz let's stick to the presidential race

http://orangehuskyproductions.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/0415_mascots-racing-presidents_485x340.jpg

those giant presidents are seriously terrifying in person. especially lincoln. he intensely looms over you, 9 feet tall, unblinking.

There's a jobs report tomorrow.

http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2012-08/august-1-adp-jobs-report-better-than-expected-economic-highlights.aspx?storyid=160453

One thing that Obama's side has been clinging to--fairly, I'd say--is that they've had 30-however-many months of net gain. Not enough to make up for the initial losses, and some months not enough to keep up with the growing labour force, but at least in the black.

If there were suddenly a month with actual net losses, that would be huge--Obama would lose that one default argument, and all of Romney's ineptitude (and I seriously underestimated how inept a candidate he'd end up being) would become much less of a story. The link above seems to indicate that July won't be that month, but I recall that these forecasts are sometimes way off.

yeah the adp report tends to be more positive than the official numbers

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/wJG9yrunfTIgYjYrpnU8Kg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusmlbexperts/batman719.png

what is 100k fewer jobless in % at the moment?

I don't know. I think you need about 150K to keep up with the labour force, 80-100K holds the unemployment rate fairly steady, and lower than that means really bad news.

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i dunno, probably 0.075% or so.

the entire premise of using the unemployment # as a measure of America's jobless are faring is faulty, though, because of what it leaves out (people working part-time that are actively looking for full-time, "discouraged workers" who have been out of a job for over a year and claim to no longer be looking, etc). factor those in, and the unemployment figure is closer to 15-16%, last time i checked. and, of course, even the "official" unemployment rate of 8.2% is unevenly distributed. college grads are 4%, for black people it's at 14.4%, 24% for teenagers.

but whatever, in the end it all just comes down to that one faulty, number, 8.2%, and whether or not it goes up or down.

also can actually go up during periods of job growth because discouraged ppl re-enter labor force

a similar problem exists with GDP.

i think it's absurd that economic analysis/policy/discourse revolves around figures that are so problematic.

The Republicans, of course, prefer to use the expanded 15-16% number (it has a technical name, forget what it is). Not that the Democrats wouldn't do the same if the situation were reversed.

well the problem is you need *something* to go off of, not to say the current method of presenting the unemployment % is acceptable but there's no way that you can come up w/ a number for GDP or unemployment that wouldn't be problematic on some level

ya but its not hard to imagine a less problematic number

The whole narrative of "What do the numbers say this month???" is really pushing people's tolerance with the issue imo.

i think it's absurd that economic analysis/policy/discourse revolves around figures that are so problematic.

^^^this

it's all just some bizarre shell game

it's almost as if statistics, charts and graphs were maybe not the best way of represen---naw, that's crazy talk, what'm I thinking

I agree with all of that, even though it might seem otherwise by linking to the piece above. That's what I was saying on another thread, or maybe this one earlier: that I just don't remember such maniacal attention to jobs reports in any previous election that I've followed. There was of course attention paid to general economic health--the unemployment rate, maybe the GDP number--but there wasn't this countdown to every monthly jobs report like there is now, even in a bad economy like in '92. It makes your head spin trying to make sense of it all.

gee i wonder why

what is it about the economy that has everyone so worried about jobs

If we take into our hand any volume; of divinity or school metaphysics, for instance; let us ask, Does it contain any abstract reasoning concerning quantity or number? No. Does it contain any experimental reasoning concerning matter of fact and existence? No. Consign it then to the flames: For it can contain nothing but sophistry and illusion.

That's exactly what I was trying to say. And now, I'm going to go listen to my Archies records.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8501nduuv1qdmmiqo1_500.gif

i swear i thought that gif had a buzzing bees soundtrack to it

Disturbing...yet trippy.

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