the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

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http://prospect.org/article/team-obama-flanks-romney-taxes

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

the ted cruz win in TX is pretty serious

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/01/quotes-of-the-day-1104/

“These guys [newly elected Tea Party candidates]” are going to force Romney to the right,” said Andrea Shell, a spokeswoman for Tea Party group Freedom Works. “That is our entire mission.”…

“If we can elect a really conservative House and Senate that will force Romney to go along with our bold conservative agenda,” Shell said. “He’s going to have to really, really go to the right. He’ll be working with guys in the House and Senate. He won’t be able to get away with too many middle of the road policies, especially on things like the deficit.”…

“It’s not going to be a Romney driven presidency,” Norman Orenstein, a researcher at the conservative think tank AEI recently told ABC News. “It’s going to be a Congressional, conservative, Republican driven presidency from Congress.”

goole, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

as far as legislation congress always drives it

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

the president can do other stuff, like drone assassinations and whatnot

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

i mean whats romney gonna do veto gop approved bills be srs

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

Disturbing...just disturbing. (Second gif.)

clemenza, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

i think the point being made is that IF romney wins, conditions in the states will be such that ALSO republicans will win their downticket races, AND those candidates are turning out to be more "class of '10" types.

as far as legislation congress always drives it

― lag∞n, Thursday, August 2, 2012 1:38 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, yes and no. when a president has majorities in congress, the WH usually has the de facto leadership position, no? but in romney's case vis a vis demint/ryan et al, maybe not!

i mean, the man twists in the wind, and right now the wind is blowing hard from the right, if that makes sense.

xps...

goole, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

pushing the lunatic fringe's agenda really did wonders in nevada and wherever that retarded 'im not a witch' lady came from last cycle

johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

i dont thats really true that the president is the defacto leader of congress

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

congress m/l does as it pleases

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

those were in races that were contestable by democrats. the trick is to put ever-crazier people into safer GOP seats/states. a democrat is not beating ted cruz in TX.

xp2

goole, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

pushing Romney farther to the right lowers his negligible chances or winning even further so yeah have fun guys

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

we're talking about after he wins, theoretically, not during the campaign.

goole, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

he's not gonna win tho

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, I'm not really worried. House has always been the repository for extremist nutjobs

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

he is going to be in the senate

iatee, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

tbh i don't know anything about ted cruz, just that all the worst people in america threw in for him.

goole, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

(somewhere i read that) he served chik-fil-a at his victory party too. cool guy.

goole, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

haha oops misread that he was going for the Senate. do the Dems have any hope of beating him to the seat?

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

nope.

Clay, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

ah well. him and Rand Paul will be best buddies I assume.

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

Nate Silver.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

everytime I see his name, I pray he's gone back to his important work on baseball.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 06:10 (eleven years ago) link

Do we reckon that Mitt's going to hop off the plane and head for the nearest Chik-Fil-A? Or does he reckon those voters are already his? Not that I expect such considerations to cause Obama to go "Yay the Gays" until this has blown over.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 3 August 2012 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

he certainly would be reassuring some doubters in the base if he got his gayhate on but it's not a good move when you're playing for swing voters. tho neither was 'go to england, insult the olympics' so who knows.

iatee, Friday, 3 August 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

Have there been any past instances of an entire political party just deciding to shamelessly shill for a private corporation? Maybe they should declare FedEx Appreciation Day and every right winger will have to spend $20 to send their mail.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

Of course politicians are bought and paid for by private corporations all the time. I mean for consumer-level products, the "Here's a picture of me buying this product and loving it! If you are a real American you will do the same!"

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

if people had to spend $20 to send mail the USPS wouldn't be in such bad shape

k3vin k., Friday, 3 August 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

Does FedEx deliver gay packages?

Moodles, Friday, 3 August 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

everytime I see his name, I pray he's gone back to his important work on baseball.

Why, what's he done wrong?

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

Incurred the wrath of morbz, to begin with

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

The jobs report is about what was forecasted yesterday--and, as iatee pointed out, the unemployment rate edged up because more people re-entered the labour force.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/03/in-july-jobs-report-something-for-everyone/

Last time, the Republicans seized on the fact that whatever the unemployment rate was, it was actually much worse because of all the people who'd given up looking for a job and weren't counted. I'm guessing they will not point out this time that the increase is deceptive because people have resumed looking. It goes on.

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

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SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) – Porn star Jenna Jameson chose a familiar stage to make her endorsement for the 2012 presidential election Thursday night. At a San Francisco strip club, the former adult actress and stage performer said she was ready for a Romney presidency.

“I’m very looking forward to a Republican being back in office,” Jameson said while sipping champagne in a VIP room at Gold Club in the city’s South of Market neighborhood. “When you’re rich, you want a Republican in office.”

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 August 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

Ron Jeremy endorsed Barack tho

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 3 August 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

man I miss those old Gold Club billboards

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 August 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

all this sound n fury re job reports and gdp reports and other reports is a bit misplaced imho, while how people feel abt jobs the economy and other things is super important to the election i really dont think these reports are the same thing as how people feel, especially since there are a million different ones all the time

lag∞n, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

what matters is how Victor Davis Hanson feels.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

will only officially be a huge deal if the number is negative. people are too stupid to parse all these numbers. especially since the real unemployment/underemployment/u6 number is always ignored anyway.

johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 3 August 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

no individual number is important, trends are tho

lag∞n, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

and fwiw i dont really think having little interest in parsing each unemployment number is really a stupid approach

lag∞n, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

It's not that people are too stupid – it's who cares? What matters is whether I or someone I know is unemployed.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

if its someone who i hate thats unemployed then for sure the president is getting my vote

lag∞n, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

will only officially be a huge deal if the number is negative

Agree. If the array of monthly numbers lurches along as is, Romney's ineptitude and taxes and all the rest will remain front and center.

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

the numbers have been basically treading water forever which is fine for obama, tho not actually fine irl

lag∞n, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

re washingtons indifference to mass unemployment http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08/why-washington-accepts-mass-unemployment.html

lag∞n, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

God, I would let Joe Biden eat my non-essential organs if it meant that 2% of the defense budget would be transferred to building fast trains and fast internet infrastructure for the next decade.

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

is that a thing Joe Biden does?

keeping things contextual (DJP), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link


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