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It's absolutely worth tracking down the issue of BLAB! (#10, I believe) containing his "The Trumpets They Play!", which is one of my all-time favorite comics pieces.

Yes. This is one of the most distressing comics I've ever read. Also, the story in Jim #2 where Jim meets the flayed man who 'likes it' gave me a full-on panic attack in 1990.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

my problem w/ horror comics is due to their anthologized nature, it's hard to figure out where a particular story was published... there are a bunch I remember from childhood and would like to read again, but I can't remember what mags they were in. these have puzzled me for years:

* a jealous understudy for hamlet decapitates the lead actor, then boils his head and uses it as a yorick prop when he assumes the role

* a man bumps his head at a subway station and suddenly has the ability to see the monsters who have been masquerading as humans, then he gets on the wrong subway car (always thought this was an influence on jacob's laddder, similar feel)

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

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Not the story you mention, but equally horrifying in a similar way:

http://e621.net/data/40/6b/406b0fe0085eaadebac75d12dd1d494c.jpg

Old Lunch, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

* a jealous understudy for hamlet decapitates the lead actor, then boils his head and uses it as a yorick prop when he assumes the role

Pretty sure this is EC, otherwise I wouldn't recognize it.

The Thnig, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

it sure reads like an EC plotline

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, that was an actual episode of Tales From The Crypt (starring Jon Lovitz!).

Old Lunch, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

ACTING!

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

that tales from the crypt eps was different - lovitz kills off a guy playing hamlet but it turns out the guy was going to be a real-life yorick prop and lovitz suffers his fate instead

google leads me to similar stuff like this, which is close but no cigar

http://marvel.wikia.com/Mystery_Tales_Vol_1_8#Appearing_in_.22The_Madman.21.22

why I remember it clearly was the grisly panels - there's actually one of the guy dropping the decapitated head into a pot of boiling water to convert it to a skull, but I'm not about to google "boil decapitated head"

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

somewhat related... Drew Friedman's visit to the MAD offices as a teenager: http://drewfriedman.blogspot.com/2012/08/a-visit-to-mad-magazine.html

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

A few years ago I bought a 4 dvd set of horror comics .cbr's on Ebay in order to get a hold of my favorites: Gold Key's "Ripley's Believe It Or Not". Genuinely creepy ghost story comics that never fail to give me the willies.

Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah! my favorite was the one w/ springheel jack

http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/iss/300w/302/193021/6836761_1.jpg

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

* a man bumps his head at a subway station and suddenly has the ability to see the monsters who have been masquerading as humans, then he gets on the wrong subway car (always thought this was an influence on jacob's laddder, similar feel)

I managed to figure this one out - a miracle, considering it was originally published as "dungeon of doom" in chamber of chills #6 in 1952, then redrawn and retitled "the monsters" in tales of voodoo in '74, and then republished in horror tales in '76 and weird in '79. I remember the redrawn version from the '76 horror tales, the '52 version is available online tho:

http://thehorrorsofitall.blogspot.com/2007/08/dungeon-of-doom.html

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

love how jaunty skeleton-conductor is in the next to last panel there

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

That's a good blog -- I finally found one of my horror favorites there. Guy who loves the sadism of boiling lobsters alive gets herded into a volcanic vent by a bunch of vengeance-minded crustaceans.

http://thehorrorsofitall.blogspot.com/2008/04/red-as-lobster-jim-mooney-rip.html

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

I think what creeped me out about "dungeon of doom"/"the monsters" was the lack of moral or irony, the two victims are innocents who get sadistically dispatched, plus the implied doomsday scenario at the conclusion

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/dungeon_of_doom.jpg

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Ha that lobster one has been on my mind since 1986.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

POOR PAUL... YOU'RE BEING BOILED ALIVE!

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

If I could draw, I'd do a variation where the sadist loves roasting beets and a bunch of tubers lock him out of his house in the hot sun. "Poor Paul...you're red as a beet!"

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

I'll stand corrected on the computer color separation issue and won't argue that Pacific Comics often fell on the garish side of things in their recoloring jobs. I also don't particularly mind it. It looks like a very specific period in comics to me, which I remember fondly.

And if you want crazy colors, check out the Baxter paper reprint books that Marvel did around the time of MARVEL PREMIERE. Some wacky stuff going on there.

Oh, and horror-wise: STRANGE EMBRACE. Any good? I have a copy I got cheap years ago and lost in my labyrinthine 'to read' assemblage. Should I dig it out?

Matt M., Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

The British girls comic "Misty" owns this thread, though the fact that its contents remain unreprinted means I can think of them as being wayyyyyy scarier than they actually were. Not sure what I would now make of the one where a girl is rendered catatonic after (implicit) gang-rape by garden gnomes.

Preacher is not horror. Sandman is goth but not horror. Alan Moore Swamp Thing is goth but not horror. Hellblazer is not horror.

Apart from Misty, all those EC-style titles win.

The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

Misty is fantastic. I have bought a couple of annuals and (aside from spotting Brit luminaries like John Ridgeway) they are flat-out brilliant. Actually, all girls comics are worth re-evaluation.

passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

Alan Moore Swamp Thing is goth but not horror

lol waht

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

Moore's Swamp Thing started out as horror, but that was only roughly the first third of his run.

Old Lunch, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

Matt, STRANGE EMBRACE is amazing, rescue it from the stack

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

Will do, once I get research reading under control.

It's funny, but I've heard people put forth that Moore's on SWAMP THING wasn't horror. They're completely wrong. It turned into outsider SF, sure, but before that? Yeah, cringing horror.

Matt M., Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I think the horror stuff (zombies, possession, monsters, ghosts, serial killers, werewolves, vampires, demons, satanic cultists, etc.) is very much front-and-center until the "battle in heaven" and Swampy goin off into outer space.

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

THAT is a cover. Thought it was Kurtzman, but what I could dig up credits Russ Heath on the cover. Beyootiful.

Matt M., Wednesday, 8 August 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link

Manga has barely had a mention here so I'll recommend The Drifting Classroom.

fit and working again, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 04:11 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's LB cole?

xp

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 05:30 (eleven years ago) link

russ heath sounds right - it's too well-drawn to be LB Cole, and it's not Kurtzman's style at all (and besides, he was working exclusively for EC at the time, never drew 'serious' covers for any comics publisher, didn't partic approve of horror comics anyway, even EC's, and only ever produced humour material for Atlas eg 'Hey Look')

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 06:16 (eleven years ago) link

heath went on to work with kurtzman on 'little annie fanny', and actually lived in the playboy mansion for a while!

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 06:17 (eleven years ago) link

btw, here's a link to a repro of ditko's most famous warren strip, 'collector's edition' - just look at the rendering!

http://johnnybacardi.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/heres-that-steve-ditko-story-i.html

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 06:23 (eleven years ago) link

It's possible that the Vicar is being satirically rockist. I take the point that Sandman stands out a little, but it's an open discussion whether this is because it's added to lists like this to sex them up a bit, or because there is an indie resisitance to adding the popular to the good.

Misty certainly appears to be the real thing, though.

I suspect I am the only person in the world that loves this, but Mark Millar's run on Swamp Thing, with art by Phil Hester and Kim DeMulder, is really great horror.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 10:27 (eleven years ago) link

You're not wrong, it's a good run.

passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link

I would have called Joe Maneely on that cover, but I wouldn't put money on it.

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:03 (eleven years ago) link

def not maneely, his work was far more 'open' (ie not nearly so many solid blacks, and far more linework.) the cross-hatching over the moon looks v. like heath's work at this time, p sure that's the correct credit.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:10 (eleven years ago) link

that ditko story is gorgeous!

fit and working again, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:20 (eleven years ago) link

I sometimes forget exactly how good Russ Heath was (well, is.) The omnipresent blacks and oppression made me think of Kurtzman.

Still waiting eagerly for those EC artist-oriented editions to start coming out from Fantagraphics.

Matt M., Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

Yeath, Heath is such a superb draughtsman - esp love the duotone strips he did for Warren in the 60s and 70s, and those sexy humour strips that appeared in National Lampoon in the early 70s;

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZxirBv0BY6A/SdopCBYLb_I/AAAAAAAAAlc/qSkPMf8k5tU/s400/25+National+Lampoon+Encyclopedia+of+Humor+1973.jpg

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

that ditko story is gorgeous!

yeah this is amazing - thx for the link

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

russ heath sounds right - it's too well-drawn to be LB Cole, and it's not Kurtzman's style at all (and besides, he was working exclusively for EC at the time, never drew 'serious' covers for any comics publisher, didn't partic approve of horror comics anyway, even EC's, and only ever produced humour material for Atlas eg 'Hey Look')

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, August 8, 2012 2:16 AM (12 hours ago)

yeah I was going based on the blog it was posted to, but they probably just misidentified an uncredited cover. cole's stuff is all over the place, and the cool things about that uncanny tales cover overlap with his better qualities (poster-like starkness, reliance on color). but the water detail def gives it away.

here are a couple cool cole covers

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/801743-MaskComics1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/592785841_o.jpg

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

don't want to img bomb the thread, here's a stunning non-horror cole

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/2072893671_1f7f4e5e70_b.jpg

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

Great cover design, but one drawback -- at first I thought those footprints were, uh, gross objects falling out of Catsidekick's body. xpost

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

I guess that's another giveaway on that uncanny tales cover, cole's depth of field is not that well-developed. it doesn't matter much when he does stuff like that mask cover, which really pops.

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

also if cole did that uncanny tales cover the moon would be bleeding into the sea and the boat would be shaped like a psychedelic banana of death

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

Only posting it here because it was mentioned a number of times itt: complete collection of Misty being released in September.

There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Saturday, 25 June 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Has anyone attempted a comprehensive bibliography of horror anthology comics? And/or pulp and magazine stories? And if anyone has made the attempt, can you let me know in which asylum they're currently residing?

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 August 2016 13:39 (seven years ago) link

Any good horror comics blogs out there? Preferably ones that link to/post free whole stories (old or new). I managed to read loads of Junji Ito online, and followed DC Pages of Fear for the short amount of time it ran, but I seem to be out of luck when searching for more stuff to sink my teeth into.

emil.y, Monday, 29 August 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link

If you can figure out DC++, there's a comics room there where I went on a deep dive and found scans of pretty much every comics anthology title that I was aware of and many that I wasn't. That's part of my problem: I have thousands of these things without any quick & easy way of knowing what material they contain short of opening them up and 'flipping' through.

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 August 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link

I spent hours scouring through DC anthologies to find a particular Lee Marrs story that had burned itself into my brain as a kid.

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 August 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link

Old Lunch- There's a book called Ghastly Terror with a complete index of pre-code American horror comics (Four Color Fear might have that too, can't remember). There's also The Great Monster Magazines: A Critical Study Of The Black And White Publications Of The 1950s, 1960s And 1970s.
I've never heard of a complete horror anthology listing though.

Emily- This blog is regularly updated and features mostly 50s comics but occasionally newer stuff. http://thehorrorsofitall.blogspot.com/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 29 August 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

Nice, thanks Robert!

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 August 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

Ooh, cool, that looks great, RAG.

emil.y, Monday, 29 August 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

The deluxe complete edition of Junji Ito's Tomie is coming out in the UK on the 3rd of January:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1421590565/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3ENYW8WV04AUU&coliid=I2SVPU7GD92Y4A

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Saturday, 24 December 2016 12:15 (seven years ago) link


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