― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link
An anonymous young man wanders through a dreamlike, decaying, 19th century urban labyrinth; he has a series of encounters, like fragments from some long-obliterated narrative (the incidents are in fact derived from Crime and Punishment and Gogol). In the film's most memorable sequence, he looks on as a series of people inexplicably launch themselves into a mysterious, bottomless abyss--it could almost be an image of Sokurov's own brand of cinematic black hole.
Charged with supernatural and psychic suggestiveness, Whispering Pages' narrative doesn't so much move as insinuate, accompanied by the haunting strains of Mahler's "Kindertotenmusik" and a faint cacophony of distant voices and sounds on the soundtrack. In long takes Sokurov's camera creeps insidiously through this timeless, spectral underworld, more attentive to atmosphere and texture than action. The sparse dialogue scenes might as well be the fill between the real action--Sokurov's uncanny extended transitions. Employing a vocabulary of mournful pans, slow-as-molasses dissolves, radically desaturated color, degraded, murky textures, speed shifts within shots, and warped perspectives and compositions care of a custom-built anamorphic lens, Sokurov takes the cinematic atavism he shares with Guy Maddin and the Brothers Quay to new extremes of dreamlike suspension. This formal archaism conspires with the trancelike acting, and the absurd gravity of the action to produce a genuinely mysterious, mesmerizing effect. Mainly filmed in a disused St. Petersburg factory, Sokurov's masterly film is an Industrial Gothic epitaph for a civilization in the throes of slow death.
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link
er, that's "kindertotenlieder," but anyway
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/antonioni/
― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
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i don't think i'd actually look forward to a new antonioni movie, but the short that played twice at the landmark century ("the gaze of michelangelo") was supposedly pretty interesting
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
It should be.
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, Tarkovsky.. Nostalghia. Doesn't make sense, but I love it. I like that the woman just gets fed up and disappears from the film. Also, I am kind of disturbed yet fascinated by the fact that there's a reference (almost the same room, same bed) in Takashi Miike's Audition to this film. I don't know what to make of it. A very close second for me would be Andrei Rublev.
― daria g (daria g), Friday, 3 September 2004 05:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 3 September 2004 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link
but yeah after that the bell chapter of rublev is killer.
re: tarkovksy refs, loved the scene in uzak where the guy was flicking between stalker and porn!
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 3 September 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link
wow, really? it struck me as a poor 'cover' of tarkovsky's original, with anything that would confuse americans removed. but maybe i'll re-read the book and watch it again.
"stalker" is my favorite. i was half-awake when i started watching it, which seemed to help me pay attention, oddly. dream logic!
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 3 September 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link
i thought it was brilliantly filmed and concise. 90 minutes happens to be the perfectlength for most stories, imho.
it was definitely not as (willfully) obscure as the original. but who cares? i'm allfor more clarity where possible. leave it to umberto eco adaptations or misbegottenthomas pynchon television pilots to leave people with brains agape,
and i've never seen a movie that justified four hours running time (re: the original).
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 3 September 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.ruscico.com/eng/films/105
Now is this the only current version available, or is there a Stateside version?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 3 September 2004 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~tstronds/nostalghia.com/
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link
http://dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare5/andreirublev.htm
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 3 September 2004 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~tstronds/nostalghia.com/TheTopics/DVD_Recommendations.html
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 30 May 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 23 September 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Nostalgia for the scene when he's trying to walk across the bottom of the swimming pool again and again.
Mirror for the mother washing hair dream sequence.
Didn't like The Sacrifice much.
― Thea (Thea), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thea (Thea), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link
And while the animal stuff is unpleasant, the cow didn't actually get hurt - it was asbestos burning, not its skin. The horse did actually die, but at least it was shot and already dead by the time it fell down the stairs. It was also supposed to be killed anyway (not by the filmmakers, though I can't remember the exact situation), which doesn't excuse the violence or anything but is worth noting nonetheless.
My Name is Ivan/Ivan's Childhood is really, really fantastic, and you should see it if you've got the chance. It's harrowing, but there are so many amazing parts - it has a few scenes shot in a birch forest that are really a treat for yr eye. And Nikolai Burlyayev fucking owns Ivan. By the time he became the bellmaker in Rublev Tarkovsky said he was a real pain in the ass to work with (and you can tell in his acting) because he thought of himself as a big star after Ivan.
― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thea (Thea), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thea (Thea), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
yes
― Thea (Thea), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― M. V. (M.V.), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― shieldforyoureyes, Friday, 23 September 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Sacrifice has some lovely scenes but doesn't work at all.. a shame. I have no idea what it was trying to do.
― dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 24 September 2005 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link
stalker is my favorite of them all... such a well sustained air of magic and intrigue. it makes me happy to hope for the chance to work in a creative field. as far as the hope it instills with me, it is maybe second only to 'la jetee'.
no one seems to have said this yet, but i... ummm... prefer the soderbergh 'solaris'. it warms me.
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 24 September 2005 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link
the reason i like tarkovsky films is that they are really good to fall asleep too. i cant understand it bein g a criticism of a film "i wanted to fall asleep". thats a really good thing for me!
anyone seen any larrisa shepitko films? she was a friend of tarkovskys and her films have a similar quality although they are more brutal. i only saw "the ascent" and "proshanie (farewell?)" but they were both really good. i think they were on at the ica and in leeds a while back. also, on the subject of soviet filmakers, the paradjanov season is coming to leeds soon too! good job i moved to sheffield :(
― ambrose (ambrose), Saturday, 24 September 2005 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Rublev for me, from the ones I've seen -- really gotta serach some medieval Russian choral music
Tarkovsky related, innit? Can't wait!
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2007 09:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Mirror gets Criterioned.
https://www.criterion.com/films/28894-mirror
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link
Saw something about fiftieth anniversary of the premiere of Solaris.
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 13:44 (two years ago) link
I'll have to drive aimlessly on the freeway for 50 minutes in commemoration.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 15:09 (two years ago) link
I’m going to stare at some algae drifting in my pond for this afternoon
― snarl self own (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 16:05 (two years ago) link
gonna go see solaris tomorrow at the IFC
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link
Ah fuuuuuuuuck really? Is it on widescreen (SovScope!)
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:58 (two years ago) link
https://www.ifccenter.com/films/solaris/
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link
never saw it before! or the remake for that matter. i hear soylent green is people.
Mods!
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link
Anyone else read the book review/profile of Stanisław Lem in a recent New Yorker? Interesting life.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 23:52 (two years ago) link
I want to, before I die, see both Solaris (the original) and Andrei Rublev on a widescreen. From what I have read they were both filmed in 180 mm.
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:07 (two years ago) link
xp That Lem profile was fascinating. I've only read his Futurological Congress and a few short stories (have only seen the movie of Solaris), but I've been meaning to dig deeper. Lots of science fiction gets called mind-bending, but no other book has bent my mind or made me laugh as hard as The Futurological Congress
― J. Sam, Thursday, 10 February 2022 01:26 (two years ago) link
i read the lem profile as well, promptly bought a book that is now somewhere in the middle of the pile
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 February 2022 02:11 (two years ago) link
Tarkovsky. Dancing. pic.twitter.com/UTckA4qLFi— Janus Films (@janusfilms) October 28, 2022
― koogs, Saturday, 29 October 2022 12:20 (one year ago) link