tipping

$5 a beer doesn't make it any cheaper in the US than in the UK
and a pint's a pint
but presumably cutty's complaint is based on spirits not being poured liberally by hand (tho they are in my local bar :D in fact why i'm not there right now i have no idea)

Oh, the spirits thing is some crazy bullshit. The Spanish are good with spirits, you get four or five times the amount you get in the UK for the same price.

i guess it's really the price of the drinks. bars are so dumb sometimes - it's like dim lighting, overpriced drinks and people trying to be sexy

i think the tipping, for me, is the straw that breaks the camel's back

it's like jesus, i have to pay 5 dollars for a 99 cent beer and then a dollar on top of it to kiss the bartender's ass who's trying too hard to be cool serving me my drink.

i like the tab actually. a lot.

or rather the idea of the tab - i'm not in the practice of running them. maybe i'll become one of those people that opens tabs a lot. i have a friend like that. she's always handing bartenders her card.

he Spanish are good with spirits, you get four or five times the amount you get in the UK for the same price.
I paid £7 for a gin and tonic in Stockholm last week, which had 10ml of gin in (compared to 35ml here).

the spanish are quite generous

The Spanish serve drinks "Ewing" style, as I learnt to my cost! Anyway because I am an utter OLD MAN I kept drinking a lovely brown beer - of course I've completely forgotten the name.

Sorry! I'm a Brit, oi don't belong 'ere m'lud. (I went to Yo Sushi today and didn't tip)

You drinkers on a budget—why are you out at a bar to begin with? If you're that broke you should buy your beer by the case and take it home to your miserable basement apartment.

hahaha! budgets aren't miserable, they're real.

Okay, then buy a case and go home. Don't take up a barstool, pay inflated prices and then stiff the bartender!

i never stiff. i just complain about not stiffing!

Well okay then. I'll spare your life.

You didn't stiff the bartender in the original post?

hahaha

i also hardly ever sit at the bar, which maybe i should try. get to know the bartenders a bit more. get a bit o' empathy goin on.

for fuck's sake! if you're so broke that $3 in tips (for 3 drinks purchased over the course of a night) breaks the bank, then as has been said you shouldn't be going out drinking. bars are businesses. drinking cheaply in one isn't your god-given right.

i tipped her 2 on my next drink

god has never given me anything, darlin and it is my right to complain about what i want to!! thanks for the info tho

wait a minute, this is wagemann, innit. the "darlin" gives it away

darlin isn't specific to wagemann, it seems, cuz wagemann i am not.

re: tipping in australia, by a yank

drinks are pretty expensive and staff is reportedly better-paid upfront than in the usa. so no tipping, i was told. but: some places (mainly restaurants, it seems) add a 10% surcharge on holidays (which is fine, i guess), or sundays (which is less fine), or saturdays (which is ridiculous).

also, service wasn't particularly great, which may or may not have something to do with the lack of tipping. yet aussie bartenders/servers are all over clearing away yr empties--it's more a struggle to get more. weird.

YEAH!

can i lock this yet?

please

Please do.

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REVOLUTION!

If only there could be a similar revolution against tipping.

but we were talking about stingy measures in the UK.

i think we should discuss every subject under the sun on this thread.

"it's not just a city in China"

boy, i wish the image spam feature was turned off.

Definitely on the same track.

isnt it a problem that there will always be douchebags that don't tip, and so the rest that do tip end up having to pay more to get the servers on a income level comparable to if they were just paid a straight wage?
so assuming income stays at the same level under both systems, instituting tipping effectively takes money from the nice people and gives it to the douchebags. how is this good?

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nothing anybody says on these threads is true. <- except that.

i've had 'normal' pints in the US tho yes.

I'm pretty sure US pints ARE smaller - isn't a US pint 16oz, and a UK one 20oz?

I've seen both sizes. Varies from bar to bar.

It's true, actually. A pint in the US is 16 fl oz, but an Imperial pint is 20. Imperial pint glasses are usually thinner (so less interior space is taken up by the glass walls) and have that bulge at the top. Some bars in NYC follow the UK model, tho I have to think they're doing it for ex-pat or global credibility reasons (ie it's an Irish or Australian bar or etc).

I'm not sure where you are all getting these standard sizes, I've been to a significant amount of US bars where beers are served in the size glass that the individual beer is supposed to be served in, ie the chimay glass, the giant pilsners, etc. That all being said, I have never noticed a difference in the size of a standard bog tap brew in either country. I think this standards myth is a myth!

xpost yes Laurel but if you can find me a bar that actually goes by standardized THIS IS A PINT IT IS 160Z and not THESE ARE THE GLASSES WE HAVE THEY ARE SLIGHTLY BIGGIE SIZED COS THEY CAME FROM IKEA I will fall dead of shock.

I don't know about the US, but in the UK a pint is always 20oz = 568ml, by law, so we do have standard sizes. Maybe it's different there though.

life without free pouring must be so depressing.

Ally, eh? I have "pint glasses" in my cupboards at home (purchased at Fishes Eddy) and they are only the 16 oz kind. Pretty sure that it's an exception to the rule to have 20 oz glasses here; most bars I can think of, even respectable non-fancy ones like Freddy's and the Whiskey Ward, serve 16 oz pints. Does Ikea sell Imperial glasses? I think they usually have the little crown and a glyph etched on the side and I think you have to go looking for them.