knucklehead american hardcore -vs- knucklehead british punk

YA's design is amazing, but i thought they only made investment products

i love hoax. they are on youth attack. they've played in my basement at the store. like going into a time warp for me. THE TUNE WAS SPACE you have to check their singer out. he's constantly flagellating himself with the microphone. also, buyer beware, they have a song called "fagget" which is uh some sort of commentary on something. they aren't anti-gay as far as i know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65AuS9UUGmw

^that's the footage where someone pulls a big ceiling fan down or something isn't it? it 'gets a bit tasty' alright. Hoax are good knuckleheads for sure, most of their loathing seems to be self-directed tho

Failures don't rly fit the idea of this thread but they have my favourite lyrics of any hardcore band of maybe the last decade

Yeah I've heard tons of good things about Youth Attack. I'm really out of the loop on new stuff, especially the last year or so. I changed jobs and can't listen to music all day any more. Just a bit here and there.

Way back then, it was the oafish likes of The Exploited and their primitive cartoon punk that sent me searching stateside.

Thirty years later, I still get more out of the US side of the pond in most genres.

But to answer the question, knuckle draggers are not recommended in any form. Fullstop. Unless it's satirical, hilarious or so o.t.t. ,it's disturbing. Hoax could fit the bill there by the look of things

here's an archive of a bunch of 3 hour radio programs that plays a bunch of great hardcore past and present from all over:

http://www.wmse.org/archive/new.php?dow=Fri&hour=030

It comes on from 3-6am friday morning, so I only hear the last hour as I'm coming into work. I pretty much love everything I hear, but am overwhelmed by how many bands there are from the 70's to present day.

hey scott can i recommend you some other new hardcore punk labels/bands if you love youth attack? this is my favourite stuff going on in music in the world right now and youth attack are great (especially SQRM and hoax) but only the tip of the iceberg!!! posted a bit about some of this stuff in the rolling punk thread but didn't seem like anyone was interested

toxic state (hank wood & the hammerheads lp, dawn of humans 7", various crazy spirit stuff)
katorga works (wiccans [best band in the world IMHO], creem)
feral kid (brown sugar [other best band], utah jazz)

haven't delved 2 deeply into knucklehead british punk yet, listened to some of it in hs through a friend but my mind was elsewhere. i listen to this oi! song all the time, great chorus for a drunk sing-along

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU8P0Ufwpl8

i will check out those labels. this is a gold standard for me. this song. i've listened to it hundreds of times. two minutes long. it says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQYaMRZrlU8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2RQUbMVe7I

not really a knucklehead band, but what the hell, this is primal u.k. stuff and in my hall of fame. there are days when i want everything to sound like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqTFa31rs7A

Crazy Spirit LP is greeeeat and incredibly good looking. in my ltd experience screenprinting posters like the one they put in the sleeve costs a packet so how they keep their prices as low as they do I'll never know

rumour is the kid who runs the label is from a v v well-off family & runs the label out of his trust fund, and often sells a loss. no idea if this true at all but would explain things if so

speaking as someone with a low income this suits me fine tbh

hey scott can i recommend you some other new hardcore punk labels/bands if you love youth attack? this is my favourite stuff going on in music in the world right now and youth attack are great (especially SQRM and hoax) but only the tip of the iceberg!!! posted a bit about some of this stuff in the rolling punk thread but didn't seem like anyone was interested

toxic state (hank wood & the hammerheads lp, dawn of humans 7", various crazy spirit stuff)
katorga works (wiccans [best band in the world IMHO], creem)
feral kid (brown sugar [other best band], utah jazz)

― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 22:31 (Yesterday) Bookmark

am bored of myself today and will now listen to all of these, may the odds be in your favour flops

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L23I1xi7uR0

ha one of my favorite releases of the year is on katorga works but it's not really in this vein i don't think.

merchandise - children of desire

Not oafs though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOLd830vTNg

This came on my ipod on the way to work this morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM0D_OaO7Wc

Nice one Poo. Partisans went all muso on their 2nd. 'Blind Ambition' still sounds OK with it's 6th formy lyrics

It's. Tut tut.

i listen to this oi! song all the time, great chorus for a drunk sing-along

― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:36 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I fucking love that Cock Sparrer song. I've probably put that on at least 15 mixes in my life. It's so good.

poo, do you have the last resort album? they only had one, right? i still need that...

ooh i've got that Partisans single, bought cos a) they were Welsh b) comedy punx overly-studded leather jackets on cover c) cost 50p

i think i have a partisans singles comp on vinyl. i know i have that menace album. i love that one.

just read that one of Partisans went on to be in Transvision Vamp and Bush. Oi Oi Oi!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQEJscmQg0

i actually really like the weird blitz album from 1989. i don't think too many people dug it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESADYbk3mw

i love the new wave-y angelic upstarts album too. still from the heart. i know they were just going for an eclectic clash vibe with the dub stuff, but i like the upstarts more than the clash so i'm good.

I like Boston Strangler's album, 'Primative.' I think it's 2012.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2eXuLa5DnY&feature=relmfu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vztrcHDc2E&feature=relmfu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW9yY_NKz4g&feature=related

I fucking love that Cock Sparrer song. I've probably put that on at least 15 mixes in my life. It's so good.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, August 17, 2012 1:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i recently put it on a mix, too! great "end of night" song at the bar too

poo, do you have the last resort album? they only had one, right? i still need that...

― scott seward, Friday, 17 August 2012 18:31 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I do, but only on CD, Captain Oi! reissue. They only had one that actually matters - Roi has put together a few line-ups since then and done a couple of albums, I've heard the one from '89 where they were just called The Resort, and it was awful. Well, IMO I guess, it was actually kinda not that far away from the 3rd Blitz album, just sounded like plodding mid-tempo rock with everything I like about Oi! music taken out.

ooh i've got that Partisans single, bought cos a) they were Welsh b) comedy punx overly-studded leather jackets on cover c) cost 50p

― zappi, Friday, 17 August 2012 18:31 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think I paid about £4 for mine! I knew about Bush and Transvision Vamp but hey if I started disliking musicians for their later careers I'd have to throw out 3/4 of my collection.

I fucking love that Cock Sparrer song. I've probably put that on at least 15 mixes in my life. It's so good.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, August 17, 2012 1:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I never liked that song, even though I know it's not a racist song and have defended it to people who say it is, any kind of English nationalism just skeeves me out. Riot Squad is my fave song on that album.

the lyrics to EBTM make almost no actual sense. well the individual lines do but there's hardly any connection from line to line. song rules tho

This is a bit of an underrated Blitz IMO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rajF73BI6tI

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