Pretend you have a ballot for the 2012 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

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Cinema works for me as a charm’d magic casement, making possible in image and action all manner of impossible experiences, realised as if they could happen and are happening. I haven’t chosen surrealist films as such, as they convey inner worlds of dream. This list presents fantasy as lived experience, some of it extremely funny. The Varda is there, too, because she uses the camera with such deep empathy for her subjects, as does Kurosawa.

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Sunday, 19 August 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

the sort of pablum one would expect of a british intercurricular academic who approaches film as a subsidiary to comparative literature

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Sunday, 19 August 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

You couldn't infer that from the blurb unless you knew who she was.

Obviously she may not have watched as many film as spent time in the library, so what?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 19 August 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link

the relative lack of knowledge isn't a thing....deleuze or zizek or whoever presumably read more than they watched, yet have some understanding of its formal integrity beyond its aptitude for displaying dream-work, gender violence, subaltern complaint or whichever other tropes derived from literary studies

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Sunday, 19 August 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

Detractors may carp about Attenborough presenting a roseate view of the Mahatma Gandhi and the omission of some negative facts about him, but his film remains a grand journey populated, literally, by a cast of thousands, and guarantees moist eyes by the end of it.

http://explore.bfi.org.uk/sightandsoundpolls/2012/voter/270

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Sunday, 19 August 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

I wouldn't know about that: Zizek is going for 'guilty pleasures' on his.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 19 August 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

i like that he thinks repping for dune is still a provocation in 2012

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Sunday, 19 August 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

Preferable to Warner's narrow perspective? Its pathetic!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 19 August 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link

Question for those of you in Britain: do used copies of the '92, '82, '72, '62, and/or '52 poll issues ever turn up in book stores, and if so, for how much? I stupidly passed up opportunities to buy the first three of those, for probably not that much. I've been looking around online, and all I see are very expensive yearly sets.

clemenza, Monday, 20 August 2012 06:05 (eleven years ago) link

you don't see any sight and sound back issues that often, tho' i don't think dealers wld partic charge a premium for the poll issues, i dunno - once you get into the 80s, you cld prob pick up old issues for a pound or two.

in the uk, these mags have always been reasonably easy to look at in the BFI archive, so perhaps there's less demand for them. also, until its incorporation with the monthly film bulletin, sight and sound has mostly been a p terrible mag

Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 August 2012 08:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i have no clue but their online archive opened this month, which might be the easiest solution if you want to investigate.

very sexual album (schlump), Monday, 20 August 2012 10:22 (eleven years ago) link

I'm actually hoping to get my hands on physical issues. If anyone, UK or otherwise, comes across one of the five poll issues listed above (I have 2002) in pretty good condition, and you can buy and mail it to me for under $10, please let me know.

clemenza, Monday, 20 August 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

Some interesting non-participant lists here too: http://torontofilmreview.blogspot.ca/2012/08/the-greatest-films-of-all-time.html

Eric H., Monday, 20 August 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

I watched Sunrise and Jeanne Dielman.

Dielman is kind of a slog, but a very interesting film. Delphine Seyrig is very good in it. I could see it as a double feature with Repulsion, or maybe Meshes of the Afternoon. It's a study of the rhythms of day to day life, but not without drama. Maybe a little affected? Her perpetual near silence seemed implausible. The scene where she preps the potatoes was great.

Sunrise was kind of amazing the more I think about it. It sets up like a noir, but then goes in a completely different direction. I loved Murnau's expressionist (?) visual style.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

I love that Sunrise becomes everyone's new favorite movie for a short or long while after they first see it.

Eric H., Monday, 20 August 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

i wonder if nrq could be persuaded to return to ilx long enough to explain his 'ferris bueller' vote.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 20 August 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

Didn't know he actually left. Wha' happa'?

Eric H., Monday, 20 August 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

nothing, he just had enough i reckon.

maybe those people on the toronto film rev iew link were given the bums rush from the official list because they couldn't count to ten without getting to fifty.

top ten:

list's 14

and here's another ten:

lists another twelve.

jed_, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

although chris kennedy and lev lewis's lists are genuinely good there.

jed_, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

The director lists are supposed to go up today. Thought they'd be up by now with the time difference, but not that I can see.

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link

tomorrow

very sexual album (schlump), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link

We don't know anything on that list outside the top 10, right? Still anticipating a Morbs-baitingly high placement for The Shining there.

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

well, they have a high pct of geeks among em

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link

Now if only they could get over their twin fetishes for and the cinema du Biskand.

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

As much as I always prefer the critics' list as the "official" one, I admire that the directors' list seems more pervious and mutable.

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

Right from the main page: "The complete interactive directors’ poll of 358 entries ​will be online 22 August."

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/SightSoundmag/statuses/238223816797614081

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

Man, these people are making things difficult...I guess it's the short lead-time of a decade that's causing all the problems.

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

They're up now, but not separately; you have to wade through the "All Voters" list to locate the directors.

clemenza, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

If you filter for "director," you can get them all on two screens. It's a bit anti-climactic, though--almost all the really prominent names were published in the print edition.

clemenza, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

Maddin: "The Tree of Life isn't even a movie, it's a vest of dynamite that rips open the viewer's bosom and keeps it suffering long after detonation."

The suffering, yes; the vest of dynamite, not so sure.

clemenza, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

assayas voting for tree of life ;_;

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

I always prefer the critics' list as the "official" one

http://explore.bfi.org.uk/sightandsoundpolls/2012/directors/

Blue Velvet over Mulholland Drive. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in the top 50.

Thanks for not letting me down, directors.

Eric H., Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

Intrigued that they managed to rank Close-Up and Night of the Hunter so high, tho.

Eric H., Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

mann ditching resnais for biutiful and claude levi strauss' 'avatar'

biutiful is no fucking good at all

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom: The film that my mother considered it essential to take me to see on the eve of my 18th birthday. I was old enough to learn the torture and the reptilian nature of human relationships. To this day, I continue to consider it as the most educational film about man’s domination by man.

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

I was just going to point out Night of the Hunter to you...I wonder what the biggest difference is. I've found Kes 160 spots higher on the director's list.

clemenza, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

^of course is gaspar noe xp

johnny crunch, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

a pound of marzipan to whoever guesses the identity of that director

lol xp

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

The Deer Hunter: #91 directors, #377 critics.

clemenza, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

<3 this list - http://explore.bfi.org.uk/sightandsoundpolls/2012/voter/998

johnny crunch, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

mann's always had a mancrush on inarritu, idgi either, i think they're close buds too

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

Joe Swanberg
V/H/S; LOL
US

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

You do mean Manncrush, right?

Eric H., Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

nice.

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

amores perros and 21 grams are pretty good but he just gets more lugubrious and pretentious

also a fetish for cancer ridden christ-figures

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i thought biutiful was pretty crummy

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 23 August 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link


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