the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

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So it looks like we're voting for OMNEY, which, unhelpfully, just sounds like the name of a faceless robot corporation.

An anagram for money that sounds like omni. Totally one of those things you'd hate if some dystopian post-Vonnegut satirist threw out there, as too obvious or lame or whatever.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link

Read in the papers that O and R and pretty much neck-and-neck, which is a whole universe of sad.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link

nah

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

Republican convention starts Monday. Except for the debates, this will be the last chance for Romney to work his magic and make the country fall head over heels in love with him. Maybe a separate thread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5udCibD5poM

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

Forget that, it's all about Akin deadline hour by hour countdown today!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

Haha I hope this is true:

HALPERIN: “The national Republicans are feeling a little frustrated. not only do they not have any persuasive arguments that have worked so far but they’re having trouble finding him or reaching him. They’re not in dialogue with him as they might be with a normal party nominee. For a lot of them, the key is Mike Huckabee. Huckabee’s endorsement probably did a fair amount to get him the nomination in that three-way fight and he’s seen as a possible bridge, if he’s willing to, to go to the Congressman and say, look, you got to get off this. It’s increasingly likely, despite, Joe, your prediction and mine from earlier, that they’re not going to get him out today. He’s got a poll that he’s touting to people that shows the race is still close. he wants to put this new ad on the air that shows him apologizing profusely. And so, they can’t reach him, they don’t have any good arguments, and he’s determined to fight on.

BRZEZINSKI: Is he campaigning?

SCARBOROUGH: Will he listen, if Mike can get in touch with him, Governor Huckabee, will he listen to him?

HALPERIN: Well, that’s the hope of national Republicans who, again, are having trouble even getting him on the phone, let alone being able to make the case. Huckabee’s support was so important to him, their hope is that he can make the case for the good of the party, as you said, thinking about the Supreme Court, thinking about the Senate seat, and the impact it can have on other candidates to get him out. I don’t know that they know that Huckabee will do it. I don’t know that they know that Huckabee will be persuasive. But it shows the extent to which they’re grasping in the establishment to find someone somewhat outside the establishment like Mike Huckabee, who could be an ambassador to him, to try to get him to see that this is not going to work if he goes forward.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

"Where's that candidate guy deal."

"Fuck if I know."

"SEND THE HUCK."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

wait, Mike Huckabee is outside of the establishment now?

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

also lol @ "they're having trouble finding him"

Have you looked under the dining room table?

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

xpost -- Well he said things like how there should be nutrition standards and that poor people should be helped and Ayn Rand came back from the dead and smote him before going "Oh fuck, I thought there was no afterlife" and then birthed Paul Ryan.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

Noticed this on the sidebar of the Time page:

The Republican National Committee chairman called on Rep. Todd Akin Monday to exit the U.S. Senate race in Missouri, even urging the congressman not to attend the party's convention next week in Tampa.

"I would prefer that Todd Akin do the right thing for our party and our candidates, and I would prefer him not come," Reince Priebus said on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront."

"I would prefer"--from the annals of understatement.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

maybe he can send Clay Aiken in his place

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

Why does Mark Halperin still have a job

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

what the

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/21/opinion/granderson-gop-rape-abortion/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

LZ Granderson wrote something lucid?!??!?

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

Huck has weighed in, reminding us all that lots of wonderful people are the products of "forcible rape." That's his version of "legitimate rape," "forcible rape." You know, as opposed to consensual.

http://gawker.com/5936386/mike-huckabee-would-like-to-remind-you-that-rape-has-created-some-extraordinary-people

andrew m., Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sd4pxG7jwk

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

There's been some comments from pro-life rape survivors floating around -- thing is, they all seem to be assuming that they live in a world where rape survivors are all forced to have abortions.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

"God's plan is for you to have children, and he'll do it by hook or by crook!"

Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

Ew

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

Gotta love those consultants.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/314579/wagner-akin-trade-places-katrina-trinko

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

Gotta love RedState even more! For instance:

No, this is not a post defending Todd Akin. I, in no way endorse the concept (which Akin himself refutes at this point) that “legitimate rape” is a phrase that should ever have entered the American lexicon. In the light of a new day I wanted to offer some final thoughts around how things unfolded yesterday and what it revealed to me.

When I found out what Akin had said yesterday, one of the first phrases I heard was “magical uterus” which I’m told began with S.E. Cupp discussing Akin’s colorful way of describing a traumatic miscarriage. Given my enduring faith that Akin is more of an idiot than an insane person, I still choose to believe he was speaking about the body miscarrying a pregnancy following a violent or traumatic event. I could be wrong. That said, having had four children with my wife and speaking to doctors about the importance of being cautious and the dangers of miscarriages, it’s a bit jarring to see people running around laughing about magical uteri when, from what I can tell, they don’t have a clue what they are talking about.

Either way it’s irrelevant to what I learned yesterday.

Etc. etc. (He didn't learn much.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

"the heart i hold" wtf

da croupier, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

In the light of a new day I wanted to offer some final thoughts around how things unfolded yesterday and what it revealed to me.

http://skepticalmentality.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Paul2.jpg

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

Read in the papers that O and R and pretty much neck-and-neck, which is a whole universe of sad.

Romney's peaking. He'll get a convention bump and pull ahead in national polls shortly thereafter, but then it will be all downhill.

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

yep hes in the midsts of yr standard vp bump and still behind, also the electoral math is not good for him this year

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

Concentrate instead on the statewide polls. Forget nationals.

holy shit @ at that RedState article.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

As far as national polls go, worth remembering that there were three major polls from just a week or two ago that showed a 7-9 point gap. (The Fox News poll, actually, was the one that had Obama up by nine.) The polls this week that show things about even have it that way with only a one point bump or so for Romney, so these things don't really jibe.

timellison, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

I know McCain had a surge when he picked Palin/had the GOP convention and that was the high water mark for him.. I think Romney will have the same trajectory.

johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

guys, there's a hurricane predicted to hit Florida early next week

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

Oh fun.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure it's a plot by the Obama administration to ruin the GOP convention.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

Wasn't their '08 convention postponed by a day because of a major hurricane?

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

I think it was. lol

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

God loves Republicans, he's just not a fan of their conventions.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Huck has weighed in, reminding us all that lots of wonderful people are the products of "forcible rape."

Commenter Compson on gawker lol:

"In fact, it is consensual sex that produced such monsters as Hitler, Stalin, and Jimmy Carter. Unless of course they were one of those few cases of legitimate rape where the woman's body didn't function correctly. However, the odds are slim. So let me ask you, would you rather take your chances with consensual sex, which has such a sordid track record, or forcible rape that produced these two fine Americans?"

amputation as therapy (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

ima go back to never ever smiling about this shit again now, apologies

amputation as therapy (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

if he drops out, can we say he aborted his campaign

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

Early and often.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

So if the same guy who supposedly was sent to convince him to get out has him on his show for the announcement, then he must be getting out.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

*shrug* At this point I predict nothing.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

he was raped by the lieberal media. he dint abort, his political body shut that situation down.

amputation as therapy (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

Boy, Akin really gave tacit permission to uncork the crazy bottle:

Rep. Steve King, one of the most staunchly conservative members of the House, was one of the few Republicans who did not strongly condemn Rep. Todd Akin Monday for his remarks regarding pregnancy and rape. King also signaled why — he might agree with parts of Akin’s assertion.

King told an Iowa reporter he’s never heard of a child getting pregnant from statutory rape or incest.

“Well I just haven’t heard of that being a circumstance that’s been brought to me in any personal way,” King told KMEG-TV Monday, “and I’d be open to discussion about that subject matter.”

A Democratic source flagged King’s praise of Akin in the KMEG interview to TPM. But potentially more controversial for King is his suggestion that pregnancies from statutory rape or incest don’t exist or happen rarely. A 1996 review by the Guttmacher Institute found “at least half of all babies born to minor women are fathered by adult men.”

Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Again, defending members of your own tribe is far more important than being a decent human being. Just look at Kirk Cameron's reaction too.

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

to be fair, Steve King has a long elaborate history of uncorking his own crazy.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

True enough, but, I mean . . . how do you even GET that crazy?

Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Akin is staying in:

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/todd-akin-im-staying-in-race?ref=fpb

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Missourians now have 11 weeks to forget this happened and vote him on to victory. It'll probably happen, too.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

Comment roffles:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/21/breaking-akin-tells-huckabee-hes-staying-in-the-race/

Looks like it’s time to look at the libertarian candidate, as well as potential write-ins and independents.

Doomberg on August 21, 2012 at 1:26 PM

The Libertarian is a dope-growing hippie who has a fairly lengthy arrest record in KS and MO.

steebo77 on August 21, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link


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