the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

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also I am just expressing a desire to see Obama yell at someone

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Thursday, 23 August 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

Something like that health care summit where he pwned some fools, but, like, every week for four years.

Bobby-fil-A (WmC), Thursday, 23 August 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

then he would be angry tho xp

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 August 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

I want another event where GOPers invite him to get barraged by idiocy and he steps up to all their questions.

But then again my mindset is a product of the Enlightenment that is obsessed with accuracy and active, complex cognition, to where it interferes with political effectiveness and expediency. Also, that rational minds thru reason can surmount the hard-wired limitations of actual human brains evolved from off-the-shelf parts for living situations that havent existed for thousands of years before Abraham showed up.

So, yeah, a President actually smarter than me easily able to show up some fools thru the power of his brain and voice alone.

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Thursday, 23 August 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

that rational minds thru reason can surmount the hard-wired limitations of actual human brains evolved from off-the-shelf parts for living situations that havent existed for thousands of years before Abraham Lincoln showed up.

^^ fixed

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 August 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

that rational minds thru reason can surmount the hard-wired limitations of actual human brains evolved from off-the-shelf parts for living situations that havent existed for thousands of years before Abraham Simpson showed up.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/Abe_Simpson.png

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 23 August 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

But he's not yelling at clouds in that pic

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Thursday, 23 August 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

I want an event where Obama and GOPers get barraged by questions about the 98% of stuff they are secretly in lockstep on that would smash the "hopelessly divided" cover story.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 August 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

but but... would the nation survive

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 August 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

98% huh

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Thursday, 23 August 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/23/bishops_god_votes_republican/

re cardinal dolan's closing benediction at the convention, other recent coziness between gop and church

j., Thursday, 23 August 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

I want an event where Obama and GOPers get barraged by questions about the 98% of stuff they are secretly in lockstep on that would smash the "hopelessly divided" cover story.

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:14 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

98% of congress are freemasons

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Thursday, 23 August 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

what, freemasons have meetings, you saying they don't disagree about anything at the meetings, that's what happens at meetings

j., Thursday, 23 August 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

Stonemasons surely

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Thursday, 23 August 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

I want an event where Obama and GOPers get barraged by questions about the 98% of stuff they are secretly in lockstep on that would smash the "hopelessly divided" cover story.

I guess when you consider all the possible things they could disagree on, 98% agreement is not too bad. For instance, both sides are in agreement on the feasibility of relocating Congress to Jupiter (not feasible), or whether or not the government should ban turtleneck sweaters (no). Human beings are about 99.9% identical genetically, and yet we still manage to seem pretty diverse.

o. nate, Thursday, 23 August 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

So Akin’s views are scandalous and can be used to discredit (however implausibly) other Republicans. But the views of the leaders of the Democratic party — favoring abortion for any (including sex selection) or no reason throughout the nine months of pregnancy — is not controversial. The Democratic party’s support for partial-birth abortion is not worthy of skepticism. The views of the president of the United States — opposing a law providing that a baby accidentally born alive after a botched abortion be protected from the abortionist’s knife — is not shocking. No Democrat has ever, so far as I know, been challenged by a member of the mainstream press to distance himself from the president’s extreme abortion position.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

o.nate, u know i don't mean bullshit

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty sure Dems and Repubs agree at least 2% on bullshit, the grand unifier.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

Once again I'd like to rep for Chris Mooney's new book, The Republican Brain, which lays out why exactly one would want to toss out as much horseshit to bolster one's own group and trash the other, reality be damned.

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

It seems to me there's some pretty clear differences between the 2 parties this cycle. I know there's a lot of overlap, esp. in areas like foreign policy and national security which tend to be more consensus driven, but on questions about the scope and purpose of government, social welfare, etc., there seem to be pretty stark differences.

o. nate, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

there has basically been very little difference between the two party establishments on foreign policy (or 'national security' if you prefer) since the '50s. there are still pretty distinct differences on other subjects.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

I'd hate to think this is true (the why more than the what), but, underscoring the Ta-Nehisi Coates piece, it might be.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/08/a_sleeper_issue.php?ref=fpblg

clemenza, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

I'm surprised he was able to write that without accidentally fondling himself.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/mGjs8.png

lag∞n, Friday, 24 August 2012 02:40 (eleven years ago) link

lol mordy left a comment!

goole, Friday, 24 August 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link

oh man they never post my comments! i don't even check back anymore

Mordy, Friday, 24 August 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link

they've gone back to disqus, looks like

goole, Friday, 24 August 2012 03:42 (eleven years ago) link

did not realize gorge soros owned gawker

lag∞n, Friday, 24 August 2012 03:44 (eleven years ago) link

wheels within wheels n shit

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2012 04:42 (eleven years ago) link

pretty sure nick denton isnt running for president

johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 24 August 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

exactly. Pareene knows where all the bodies are buried, no doubt

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2012 05:12 (eleven years ago) link

ABC is reporting on the leaked documents:

abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bain-documents-romney-offshore-investments-blockers-avoid-taxes/story?id=17067015#.UDcPGERV47D

timellison, Friday, 24 August 2012 05:22 (eleven years ago) link

THE FIX IS IN

a bag of andy capp's hot fries (stevie), Friday, 24 August 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

srsly tho didn't john cook acknowledge this in his Romney piece?

a bag of andy capp's hot fries (stevie), Friday, 24 August 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

yes

max, Friday, 24 August 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

Romney should make it a priority to get to the bottom of this Gawker business the second he takes office.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 August 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

SLICK NICK

lag∞n, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

nick denton is some kind of libertarianish tory, right? and a hyperaggressive weirdo? and so now wmson/drudge are saying, he's like mitt romney?

does this scan, i mean, at all?

goole, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

h8rs

lag∞n, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

thats a fairly accurate denton gloss, no clue what wmson or drudge think theyre saying tbh

max, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

man i hadnt looked at drudge in so long, glad its still exactly the same

lag∞n, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

well to be totally fair i guess, regardless what denton does with the $$, gawker is part of the democrat media complex. right there in the middle of that whole complex.

goole, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

the "gawker does it too!" reaction vaguely less infuriating than the aggressively over-it reactions from financial journalists

max, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

financial journalists being all duh everyone does it is some exquisite expert level point missing

lag∞n, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

i do think its interesting that gawker is in the caymans tho, did not know that

lag∞n, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

NYT summarized the financial documents dump today.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 August 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link


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