Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

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huh, never knew about the different mixes. my LP is the closet mix.

dmr, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

http://olivier.landemaine.free.fr/vu/live/1968/vuad6805.gif

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

I just listened to both mixes. Vocals are different, the closet mix also has only one guitar which sounds to me like neither of the guitars on the original vinyl mix. The percussion and the bas could very well be the same though.

wise men farting over you (snoball), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

Steven, i know you have recorded many of Beantown's finest classic rock albums of the 70s, but seriously, ffwd to the final verse ("put jelly on your shoulder")... Lou does this elongated falsetto on the closet mix ("lie down upon the carpet"). the prominent guitar (not sure if that's lou or sterl) that's present on both tracks also does more blue note bends on the closet mix. NOTE: I am NOT A/B-ing this shit, I have heard both versions enough that they are ingrained in my brain.

Trust me for I am
Peter G. (aka "lil queequeg")

queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

The guitar present in both mixes is Lou for the record. Sterl got the shaft in the closet mix, no wonder he named it so.

lil queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

blue note bends

Yeah, this was the descriptor I was trying to come up with. Neither guitar on the original mix does this the same way, or as much.

Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

Can I just say that doing my research for my previous post I had to revisit the reunion tour album which has to be without a doubt one of the biggest flaming piles of shit ever amassed?

lil queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

the version of some kinda love on there is pretty bonkers. lou is terrible, but cale's piano pounding drowns him out at the end!

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

Chuckling at Ralph Stanley resolutely refusing to find a way to fit "tickles me down to my toes" into the meter every single time he reaches that line.

Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

Steven, i know you have recorded many of Beantown's finest classic rock albums of the 70s, but seriously, ffwd to the final verse ("put jelly on your shoulder")... Lou does this elongated falsetto on the closet mix ("lie down upon the carpet"). the prominent guitar (not sure if that's lou or sterl) that's present on both tracks also does more blue note bends on the closet mix. NOTE: I am NOT A/B-ing this shit, I have heard both versions enough that they are ingrained in my brain.

ha, I will confess that I listened to the first two minutes A/B and said "these are the same performance for the most part," I haven't made it all the way through. I will] say that I remember plenty of blue bending notes on the French vinyl which was my listening copy during the eighties - it was one of the things I found most unusual about the song.

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

Someone who didn't pay enough attention to VU lyrics.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

he was Chinese so maybe hadn't understood the song perfectly.
I mean since WL/WH is such a popular lp over there & all

Stevolende, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

feel like leading off the 1969 LP is a good idea, not sure how i feel about it not ending with "I'm Sticking With You" ... but 'Ride Into The Sun' is rad too.

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

meant to say "feel like leading off the 1969 LP with Foggy Notion is a good idea"

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

As long as it leads off with the six guitar notes missing from every non-vinyl-VU release of the song.

Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

also, leaving out ferryboat bill! COME ON.

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

I admit I am kinda tempted by this

chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

mostly because all my Velvets stuff has always been cassette/CD (apart from a very odd pressing of WL/WH)

chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know if I've only ever heard the 'closet mix' or what but every mix I've ever heard has sounded exactly the same. Maybe the older mix just isn't in circulation much these days...

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

xp it does look cool. i think sundazed said it would retail for around $100. which isn't outrageous, i guess. it's a little outrageous.

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

not to just keep posting things from sundazed's facebook page, but this is neato!
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/417395_10151070916863791_1241806119_n.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, those tape boxes were the CD covers for the discs in the box set from the mid-90s. I remember trying to understand what the heck the notes next to each track meant.

I love that "Sister Ray" is handwritten in, having crossed out "Searching."

city worker, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

"Really? This isn't the Coasters tune? Are you sure?"

Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

the peel slowly and see tape box is slightly different
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hWb26SAoAv8/TxKs2EWwctI/AAAAAAAABl8/JpeNwegCPfo/s1600/void%2525280%252529-2.jpeg
i can kind of imagine the velvets jamming on searchin' by the coasters.

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, definitely. "I'm Gonna Move Right In" slightly resembles "Searchin'."

Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

listening to the sundazed track order for 1969 now. works OK -- weirdest inclusion is "move right in". unless they've uncovered a vocal track for it, it still sounds like an unfinished jam. i like it, but i find it doubtful the band would've released it back then. and they've left out finished tunes like andy's chest, she's my best friend, ferryboat bill etc.

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

xp yeah you're right "move right in" kinda borrows the searchin groove.

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

jpg #1 = mono
jpg #2 = stereo

lil queequeg (peter grasswich), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

guys I think Sister Ray was called "Searching" by the tape op because of the repeated line "I'm searching for my mainline" throughout the song.

we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

guy you may be right

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

No "she's my best friend"? That's crazy. Song is awesome.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

I couldn't figure out what "Searching" was... first guess was "Beserking"

chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

$100 for 5 Sundazed LPs (+posters & neat-o box) sounds about right. Their Quine set is that much for 6 records.

Hut Stricklin at Lake Speed (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

yeah $20 per album seems perfectly reasonable to me

chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

re: she's my best friend -- anti doug yule bias? seems wrong -- he sang lead on both the third LP and loaded, would've been surprising if he didn't get a vocal showcase on the lost album.

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

had no idea Yule sang that

chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

those pictures of the masters are so great. i could look at them all day.

save the game like a memory card (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

http://i47.tinypic.com/2s7ap2v.png

tylerw, Friday, 7 September 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

haha, have you got the one with Cale's keyboard that has a speech bubble saying "SCREE!"
for some reason that's always stuck in my head

zappi, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

i can't find that one! my friend used to have the whole book of great pop things, pretty funny.
http://i49.tinypic.com/1zulqf.png
http://i50.tinypic.com/2uzp9uo.png

tylerw, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

oh wait no, there's the SCREE!

tylerw, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

Lester chuggin a mug o' nutmeg! (what no cough syrup?)

aerosmith suck because their corporate rock that sucks (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 7 September 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

have we posted this yet in this thread?
http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/richmedia/images/cover.gif
$95 ...

tylerw, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

did we miss that SQUEEZE has been released on CD at last?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51hukBjhLwL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0087PL42I/thevelvetunde-20

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link


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