Pretend you have a ballot for the 2012 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

I guess I'm mostly thrown because I would've thought Mekas would've been a canon-smasher rather than a canon-builder, but maybe the former wasn't even a thing yet.

I'm just guessing, but maybe harkening back to early silents was somewhat insurrectionary at a time when, with scattered exceptions like Macdonald or Farber, most American film writing (sometimes not even bylined) was still devoted to Doris Day films in general-interest magazines and daily newspapers. I don't know, though.

I imagine children circa 1930 in Lithuania loved Chaplin, too.

even Lithuanians have got soul

Nice catch on the Vertigo vote, Eric. I've never heard of Douchet, but he's still alive.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Douchet

I bet he's been walking around for the last month going, "Told you so--didn't I tell you so?"

Looking over his resume, I feel a little silly for not recognizing the name--apparently I've seen him in a number of films.

Here are the '72 (Bogdanovich, Jay Cocks, Richard Corliss, Judith Crist, Penelope Gilliatt, Stanley Kauffmann, Robin Wood) and '82 (Peter Biskind, Vincent Canby, David Denby, Molly Haskell, Hoberman, James Monaco, Rosenbaum, Richard Shickel, Susan Sontag, David Thomson) polls. Will try to get the '92 poll.

wow, kudos to paul schrader for putting 'lolita' on his list (in '72).

The only thing that would make that Bogdanovich '72 quote more Bogdanovich is the word "Orson".

Lolita is imho a ridic choice as a top-10 film, even SK admitted he was hamstrung by making it a half-decade early.

it prob wouldn't make my own top 10 (maybe top 20, it is really good i think) but i'm always happy when ppl pick kubricks that aren't '2001' or 'strangelove.'

'paths of glory' is the kube i wish got more love on these lists.

Eyes Wide Shut is mine.

I'm ok with both 2001 and Strangelove being the representative Kubricks, but Shining and Barry Lyndon will do just as well for me.

Spartacus is mine.

Heaven's Gate (1980 Cimino)
Chronik der Anna Magdalena Bach (1968 Straub/Huillet)
Streets of Shame (1956 Mizoguchi)
Choses secrètes (2002 Brisseau)
Traviata '53 (1953 Cottafavi)
Donovan's Reef (1963 Ford)
Sunrise (1927 Murnau)
Outrage (1950 Lupino)
Gentleman Jim (1949 Walsh)

if only Spartacus had been a real Kubrick film

if only The Shining had not

Black God, White Devil 1964 Glauber Rocha
Chimes at Midnight 1966 Orson Welles
Mamma Roma 1962 Pier Paolo Pasolini
Night of the Hunter, The 1955 Charles Laughton
Ordet 1955 Carl Theodor Dreyer
Russian Ark 2002 Aleksandr Sokurov
Sacrifice, The 1986 Andrei Tarkovsky
Steamboat Bill, Jr. 1928 Buster Keaton
Turin Horse, The Béla Tarr
Viridiana 1961 Luis Buñuel

http://explore.bfi.org.uk/sightandsoundpolls/2012/voter/1118

excellent list

one of portabella's own films is on rosenbaum's list

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Need NRQ back to start up the 2022 thread.

Saw "L'Atalante" and the rest of Vigo's stuff last week. It's very nice but didn't move much as much as, say, Sunrise, or Boudu. But I admired how much of it was seemingly shot on location. I guess ultimately that's what killed Vigo?

I think I preferred Zero de Conduite to "L'Atalante".

nice list from ferrara, possible exception for russell idk

Cul-de-Sac 1966 Roman Polanski
Devils, The 1971 Ken Russell
Hawks and Sparrows 1966 Pier Paolo Pasolini
Prison 1949 Ingmar Bergman
Lolita 1961 Stanley Kubrick
Los Olvidados 1950 Luis Buñuel
Ran 1985 Akira Kurosawa
Touch of Evil 1958 Orson Welles
Woman Under the Influence, A 1974 John Cassavetes
Zero de Conduite 1933 Jean Vigo

ZDC is vigo's best film

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/reviewing-greatest-films-all-time

http://www.bfi.org.uk/sites/bfi.org.uk/files/styles/15_columns/public/image/ss-greatest-films-all-time-2012-infographic-001-biggest-gainers-2002-to-2012_0.jpg

http://www.bfi.org.uk/sites/bfi.org.uk/files/styles/15_columns/public/image/ss-greatest-films-all-time-2012-infographic-002-biggest-losers-2002-to-2012_0.jpg

Bump mostly predicated on the fact that the S&S issue finally hit US newsstands. Apparently the downtown B&N here got 8 copies and, by the time I got there, only 2 were left.

Bought one a few days ago. As someone who doesn't buy magazines at all, $13 was eye-opening.

$10 here. Think 2002 ed. was $8.

Finally, a way to slice the pie in Bunuel's favor:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8042/7999119014_5e128827bd_z.jpg

Which Straub-Huillet should I watch first?

Anna Magdalena Bach.

discussion in which Dan Callahan takes up the "where is comedy and/or Hawks" cry.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/reviewing-greatest-films-all-time-part-two-back-future-poll

welp done til '22 then

I don't track this, and only know because a friend posted about it: the annual They Shoot Pictures, Don't They? Top 1000.

http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_all1000films_table.php

I like their #1 better than Sight & Sound's.

That's nice.

All the Chris Markers moved up in the rankings tho, so thumbs up to this.

The highest new entry that I can see is Harlan County; highest ranking of the four 2011 (i.e., most recent) films, The Tree of Life.

I was just looking at last year's list on Letterboxd to check out my unseens (about 170). Now I have to deal with a new shakeup.

and yes, clemenza, you are always wrong.

Beyond the Valley of the Dolls claws its way to #996. Ebert death bump.

what the hell is natural born killers doing there

way better than The Lives of Others

Good to see Avatar, Ghostbusters and Robocop finally getting the credit they deserve.

And Citizen Kane.

Those top ten rankings are adamantine.

Tell that to The Searchers. No really, tell it.

http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000.htm

Seventy-seven films, however, had to make way, and two legendary German/Hollywood filmmakers, Fritz Lang and Douglas Sirk, were the most affected (along with King Vidor), each losing three films from the list.

Pouring one out for Sirk.

The Winners – Top Climbers within the 1,000
Chronicle of a Summer (1961)… 627 to 356 (up 271 spots)
Red Sorghum (1987)… 869 to 605 (up 264 spots)
Tie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks (2003))… 662 to 410 (up 252 spots)
Grey Gardens (1975)… 625 to 379 (up 246 spots)
Yellow Earth (1984)… 673 to 435 (up 238 spots)

The Winners – Highest Entrants into the 1,000
The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On (1987), ranked 545
Harlan County, U.S.A. (1976), ranked 572
Ashes of Time (1994), ranked 631
Empire (1964), ranked 658
Ulysses' Gaze (1995), ranked 689

The Losers – Biggest Fallers within the 1,000
The Thief of Bagdad (1940) 692 to 836 (down 144)
The Red Balloon (1956) 606 to 743 (down 137)
Dracula (1958) 826 to 952 (down 126)
Fort Apache (1948) 756 to 871 (down 115)
Edward Scissorhands (1990) 718 to 830 (down 112)

The Losers – Biggest Fallers from the 1,000
La Nuit de carrefour (1932), formerly ranked 806
India: Matri Bhumi (1959), formerly ranked 810
Midnight Run (1988), formerly ranked 832
Swing Time (1936), formerly ranked 844
Late Chrysanthemums (1954), formerly ranked 846

Grey Gardens (1975)… 625 to 379 (up 246 spots)!!!!!!!

Right at the top of the page in zing:

mann ditching resnais for biutiful and claude levi strauss' 'avatar'

biutiful is no fucking good at all

I misread mann as man & thought this was referring to the actual s&s list D:

I thought it was referring to Anthony Mann's list.

Looks like Sight & Sound's documentaries list was responsible for most of the winners here.

Also: Chinese films have done well this year. Wasn't there a Greatest Chinese Films list?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R4PUMY8HEM8/S7vX9aTRzII/AAAAAAAADQ0/kMb-x-HJUvA/s1600/magnifying-glass.gif