I HATE APPLE

oh wait, this is the hate thread... my bad

Again, i'll pass on Windows phones until or unless the apps arrive. Most stuff right now is Apple and Android only, maybe Blackberry.

I'm thinking the iPhont 5 will have some kind of PowerNap type functionality.

Nah, Sparrow tried to support Push, but Apple rejected it for misusing the multitasking API. They were trying to come up with some other method, but then Google bought them.

Apple should really sort something out, though -- it's unfair and lame that Apple apps like Mail/Reminders/Notes can do this and others can't.

WEill Ipad survive 80$ android tablets influx - Ghost of Jobs says yes

http://osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/apple-kegerator.jpg

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670760/will-apples-tacky-software-design-philosophy-cause-a-revolt

YES

how acre!

so pretty much a non-event today, huh

5 ROWS OF ICONS

fuckle

iphone 6: SIX ROWS OF ICONS!!!!

iPhone 7 : We Are Dicks Now

Lightning-to-30-pin dock connector adapter £25 or US $29.

Holy shit.

sounds like it'd have to have a dac in it

like, the current connector has analog audio line out, this thing only does digital...

Video-out not supported either BTW.

Add $10 if you want a 20cm cable between the old and new connectors.

And what's the deal with two different sizes shown on the Apple site? Even the smaller one is bigger than it would seem to require given the shortness of the 30-pin male connector.

http://images.apple.com/ipod-touch/images/specs_accessories_lightning.jpg

http://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/2855/as-images.apple.com/is/image/AppleInc/MD823?wid=185&hei=185&fmt=jpeg&qlt=95&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.5,0.5,0,0&iccEmbed=0&layer=comp

what do these things do again? adapt the old usb-iphone connector to the new iphone?

no, they adapt the new iPhone and iPods to work with 30-pin dock connectors, like those on speakers, car stereos, or your old charging cables

right right

it looks really flimsy btw, like you could easily snap that skinny part off in your iPhone

xp - oops, yes they will adapt the ubiquitous USB-to-Apple connector cables too.

o wow, Windows 8 looks kind of awesome.

Remember when Steve Jobs unveiled the original iPod nano by pulling it out of that little extra front pocket-within-a-pocket in his jeans? Now we're all going to use that little pocket to carry an new-to-old adapter plug everywhere we go

xp yeah I might have posted this thought somewhere on ilx before but after years of iOS's skeumorphic rounded-corner 3-d soft-lighting nonsense, the flat-color windows 8 rectangles are a refreshing change.

On the other hand, shit like dealing with device drivers probably still makes Windows a horrorshow

is one of the ideas of windows 8 that you use it the same way on mobile, tablet and desktop pcs, touchscreen or mouse?

not really, windows has been pretty chill for a while
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that's their play, yeah xp

mh, just a couple weeks ago we had to bring my partner's home-built pc to the shop because we had somehow uninstalled windows and then made it impossible to reinstall. This was after trying to track down manufacturer drivers to make Skyrim work without bluescreening.

idk, man, that all comes down to manufacturer hardware and drivers. my stock work pc works fine (Dell, lol) and my mac runs windows 7 just fine

are we talking Windows 7 or an earlier, sucky version?

I think that Windows 7 is the best OS that Microsoft has ever released (no judgment on 8, yet), has a pretty decent security model and programming environment, and is relatively insulated from a lot of driver crashes. Vista mostly was, but was plagued by permissions and UI vagueness. XP was OK on release but was a shitheap that lived too long/.

7. I mean I am impressed with Windows 7 being able to connect to wireless networks, I'll give them that.

The desktop PC version of Win8 is going to have a steep learning curve for anyone used to 7, and I suspect many Windows PC users who don't have Windows phones or tablets (which is most of them) will choose the old Windows 7 interface on their desktops and laptops. Most of us already are used to either iOS or Android on mobile/touchscreen devices anyway.

Windows Phone also suffers from the paucity of apps for it, and a small selection of phones that run it (mostly Nokia)

Crazy. Yeah, 7 does bluetooth and wireless fine, XP really had that grafted on and it was always kind of hacky.

I have no idea how you partially uninstall Windows 7 unless it's due to weird software or hardware failure?

Me neither! It was pretty magical.

that's a good play imo

i gotta admit these home screens are pretty dope

http://blog.inner-active.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/windows_phone_7_107099550.jpg

windows:rocka dnr oll

the managed home screens look nice and simple. but i've seen videos where they scroll to the next page and every app has its own square and its own colours and it looks like a carcrash.

I just got a new Win laptop and love 7

Ugh, part of the awesomeness of having an iPhone was being able to charge my phone almost ANYWHERE I went; like if I was at someone's house and my phone was dying and I asked them if they had an iPhone or iPod charger, 4 out of 5 times the answer was yes and the day was saved. Also Apple can gtfo with these grossly overpriced accessories. Does it come with an adapter bcz if it doesn't this will seriously make me reconsider upgrading in like 6mos

sounds like the adapter is an add-on you'd have to buy, $29 for the adapter and $39 for one with a cable. to boot, the phone comes out in september but the adapter won't be available until october.

rmde

I bet it's not even USB 3.0 capable.

It's not. So you're expected to just sit there for the hour or two it's going to take to back up a full 64gb phone I guess? Total trash.

monoprice will have their own adapters for $5 within a month, i'll bet

that said i almost never backup over USB anymore

monoprice will have their own adapters for $5 within a month, i'll bet

that said i almost never backup over USB anymore

Oh that's right I forgot you can do wifi sync!

the new ones will have 802.11n, oh yeah!

I mean I am sorta looking forward to not having to delete stuff every time I need to update iOS or large apps

:(

I think I came up with the theory that OS X runs a lot better if you have at least 20% of your hard disk space free, but this was several years ago and on a laptop with less memory.

the standard recommendation for years has been to keep 10% of HD space free on a laptop/desktop computer as a bare minimum