i want to see this: http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/documentary-takes-a-business-view-of-street-drug-trade/
― Mordy, Sunday, 9 September 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/09/11/legalize-pot-for-the-children
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
it doesn't mention it, but also good for the kids is legalized regulation. i've seen studies over the years that show that kids have easier access to pot than they do to alcohol bc of the way alcohol is regulated ie you buy it thru stores, not thru shady dealer in playground or whatever
― Mordy, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
that kind of doesn't make sense to me. but then again, in HS *everyone* pretty much had access to everything!
― the late great, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
a lot of those studies are self-reported by kids so i don't always put the most stock in them
― the late great, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
It was way harder to get booze than pot in high school for me, but it wasn't true for people I knew whose parents drank or who had a sleazy older friend from college or something, and I think that more people fell into those categories.
― OK CLARABELLE PART 3: The Return of the MOO! (how's life), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
why would kids self-report marijuana more than alcohol? wouldn't you'd think a bias would run in reverse?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know. good question. but at the same time i have trouble believing it would it be easier for kids to get pot than alcohol for the reason that how's life brings up
― the late great, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
It makes total sense. One kid gets pot from a dubious source, discreetly sells it to other kids at school. A few beers would fill up a bookbag, get shaken around, and make alot of noise.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
I think this is the study I'm remembering:
http://blog.norml.org/2009/08/28/study-says-its-easier-for-teens-to-buy-marijuana-than-beer/
― Mordy, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's a good point adam but another thing i think is that some things get way more attention than others from the kids themselves
― the late great, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
we would always have these school safety survey results where 75% of kids would say they didn't do drugs but 75% of their friends did or something like that
― the late great, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
"In their study, they found that 40 percent of teens could get marijuana within a day; another quarter said they could get it within an hour"
that part is like a little "yeah, okay, sure kid."
― Mordy, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2012/09/23/study_marijuana_prevents_spread_of_cancer/
― Mordy, Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
was surprised to find out "california pacific medical center" is actually a legit institution, it sounds like a dispensary
― the late great, Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Sunday, 23 September 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
this is kinda important:http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/10/15/medical-marijuana-gets-its-day-in-federal-court-tomorrow/
― Mordy, Monday, 15 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/15/british_study_commends_drug_decriminalization/
― Mordy, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20121016_New_Jersey_s_first_medical-marijuana_dispensary_wins_clearance_to_begin_selling.html
i should move to cherry hill
― Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but the mmj restrictions in jersey are totally absurd
― carne asada, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
i'd qualify tho
― Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
"I got called a misogynist on twitter, it's causing me anxiety"
― set the controls for the arse of your mum (sic), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
lulz but srsly i don't think they're prescribing for anxiety in nj.
A physician must certify that a patient has an approved debilitating medical condition to participate in the Medicinal Marijuana Program. Approved debilitating medical conditions include:Amyotrophic lateral sclerosisMultiple sclerosisTerminal cancerMuscular dystrophyInflammatory bowel disease, including Crohn’s diseaseTerminal illness, if the physician has determined a prognosis of less than 12 months of life.The following conditions apply, if resistant to, or if the patient is intolerant to, conventional therapy:Seizure disorder, including epilepsyIntractable skeletal muscular spasticityGlaucomaThe following conditions apply, if severe or chronic pain, severe nausea or vomiting, cachexia or wasting syndrome results from the condition or treatment thereof:Positive status for human immunodeficiency virusAcquired immune deficiency syndromeCancer
Amyotrophic lateral sclerosisMultiple sclerosisTerminal cancerMuscular dystrophyInflammatory bowel disease, including Crohn’s diseaseTerminal illness, if the physician has determined a prognosis of less than 12 months of life.The following conditions apply, if resistant to, or if the patient is intolerant to, conventional therapy:
Seizure disorder, including epilepsyIntractable skeletal muscular spasticityGlaucomaThe following conditions apply, if severe or chronic pain, severe nausea or vomiting, cachexia or wasting syndrome results from the condition or treatment thereof:
Positive status for human immunodeficiency virusAcquired immune deficiency syndromeCancer
i've got one of these ^^
― Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
i never understood this country's "well if you're dying have all the drugs you want" hypocrisy
― the late great, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
then again, i've seen pretty good anecdotal evidence that cannabis is not a particularly good long-term solution for some of the stuff it's often prescribed for in california, i.e. mental health conditions
― the late great, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
i heard gary johnson this morning on NPR (from the 3rd party candidate debate last night) say that we should immediately legalize marijuana. i wonder how long it'll take before a dem or rep candidate says the same.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
Libertarians have been saying that since forever though.
― how's life, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
then again, i've seen pretty good anecdotal evidence that cannabis is not a particularly good long-term solution for some of the stuff it's often prescribed for in california, i.e. mental health conditions― the late great, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:33 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the late great, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:33 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^this. I don't really see how cannabis can cure or really help any of these. And if it's so bad and hated, why should people with serious illnesses be able to take it when perfectly healthy people can't? The hypocrisy of the whole thing is astounding, frankly.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
imho, legalizing medical marijuana is a gateway to full legalization - a way to get people comfortable to the idea
― Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
also, re mental health conditions, i have known people who have suffered from severe anxiety that were helped through marijuana use
― Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
marijuana threw my anxiety into complete overdrive, but I acknowledge it works differently for different people. I'd try it for anxiety again.
― how's life, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
There is plenty of medicine prescribed for mental health that is not very good for people to take in the long term.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
I think in my case, it was not good to take in dosages of like, a dozen bowls and a few bong hits over the course of the evening. That's just how everyone I ever smoked down with liked to roll.
― how's life, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
imho, legalizing medical marijuana is a gateway to full legalization - a way to get people comfortable to the idea― Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:45 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:45 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sure, but why not just admit that it's not proven to be bad for you? Instead of saying that it is bad for you unless you have a serious illness?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
I agree with you - I'm just not sure it's politically feasible (or at least not as feasible as medical marijuana appears to be).
― Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
the third party debate was lol because with the exception of the poor man's clint eastwood from the "constitution party" every candidate supported legalizing marijuana. there were a bunch of issues like that.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
jill stein had the I'M A DOCTOR THIS IS RIDICULOUS angle to work.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
this is also absolutely true, i have long-lasting (probably permanent) side effects from being on SSRIs for oh, about fifteen years now
― the late great, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
anyone see 60minutes last week?
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 26 October 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't. good?
― Mordy, Friday, 26 October 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
The segment is streaming online: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50133577n
Worth checking out...
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 26 October 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah nothing groundbreaking, but just rad to see 60minutes devoting time to it
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Saturday, 27 October 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
cool segment, also economic revitalization information made me feel very optimistic. if states begin to draw lots of revenue from this i think that will expedite more comprehensive legalization
― Mordy, Saturday, 27 October 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
Filled in one vote-by-mail oval today to legalize weed in WA state and another to legalize gay marriage. Doesn't mean they'll pass (though both are polling ahead for now), but still, I never thought I'd actually see either up for a vote, much less on the same ballot.
― joygoat, Saturday, 27 October 2012 06:45 (eleven years ago) link
hi colorado
― wk, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
FYI: http://the420times.com/2012/11/track-the-6-marijuana-ballot-measures-live/
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:04 (eleven years ago) link
this is insane. NH medical legal great but colorado recreational legal is just... i guess we're heading towards a major federal situation.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:05 (eleven years ago) link
maybe CO can take some federal heat off CA?
― wk, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:06 (eleven years ago) link
WA looks like it's going to legalize too.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:07 (eleven years ago) link
Colorado for O.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link