Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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I think its a different, althought very similar piece.

I don't think I've seen so many strawmen in one place before. Who on earth are these people?

laxalt, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link

A month or so ago I phoned up the Guardian and told them that Julie Burchill only had eight weeks to live, and that everyone in the media was frantically trying to find a replacement.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link

sounds plausible. jules could write, was the thing.

banriquit, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link

She's not dead yet, don't try and rob her of those precious last four weeks!

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 11:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Ruth Fowler deserves some respect for discovering this exciting new development.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Did you know she went to Cambridge?

Neil S, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess what's funnier is the self-flagellation of the Graun for printing her.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Did you know she went to Cambridge.

Cue standard gag re. getting beaten by Kidderminster Harriers 4-1.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Did you know she went to Cambridge.

And yet amazingly she also worked as a stripper!

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Gotta top up those grants somehow.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe we should have a few weeks where we pick on a different broadsheet. This shit's embarrasing--like making fun of a retarded kid.

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link

troo.

torygraph?

banriquit, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link

You've gotta work your way up to that shit, start with the Times.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Damian Thompson's blog looks like a fertile source of OW MY HEAD

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Times is even more of a joke than Guardian though?

laxalt, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Interests of balance tho.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:19 (sixteen years ago) link

That's why The Times is a good starting point. Maybe the Indy as well but yeah political balance and shit. The Torygraph is more solid across the board but when they decide to be ridiculous they top everyone.

I give 'Comment Is Free' about a year, tops. Until the 'ooh blogging, how modern!' thing finally dies down and they realise they're just paying shit journalists for no reason and lacerating their brand in the process.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:19 (sixteen years ago) link

^^ i really hope so. this will sound ridic and precious, but stuff like the thing i linked to does actively put me off.

i give daily enrique links to the guardian about a year, tops.

banriquit, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I give 'Comment Is Free' about a year, tops. Until the 'ooh blogging, how modern!' thing finally dies down and they realise they're just paying shit journalists for no reason and lacerating their brand in the process.

OTM.

Glad that Times thread has started, let's do that for a few weeks.

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:40 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

it's a game of opinions

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/tv/2008/05/it_was_while_watching_the.html

Frogman Henry, Saturday, 24 May 2008 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/mar/27/religion

^^ this is guy is a choad.

banriquit, Saturday, 21 June 2008 11:32 (fifteen years ago) link

united states independent music lovers:pitchfork media::british:guardian

strgn, Saturday, 21 June 2008 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link

i wish there was a last call for internet connections

strgn, Saturday, 21 June 2008 12:31 (fifteen years ago) link

This picture is eminently punchable
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/site_imagery/george_monbiot_140x140.jpg

jim, Saturday, 21 June 2008 12:49 (fifteen years ago) link

What other "militant atheists" support the war in Iraq apart from Christopher Hitchens? That article is strawmannery gone mad.

Bodrick III, Saturday, 21 June 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

particularly since iraq was a secular state. the paleo-conservative irony is that the war has created a space for religious nutjobs to win real victories; how anyone could see that as 'progressive' i don't know.

banriquit, Saturday, 21 June 2008 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think Milne is terrible, historically - but I think I disagree with him about religion. for those of us who do not believe in god or gods, it would surely seem hypocritical to look to religion for our progressive salvation etc.

the pinefox, Saturday, 21 June 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, it's a cynical case, in a way? 'I don't agree with these people's most fundamental beliefs but they seem useful right now'?

the pinefox, Saturday, 21 June 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

and that's assuming that they are indeed useful

the pinefox, Saturday, 21 June 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Today Richard Williams said, of last night's game, "a headed goal for each side" or something to that effect.

Is it really too much to ask for someone to actually have seen the game? Not least when he's their supposed "expert".

Ronan, Saturday, 21 June 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

^ roffle

Frogman Henry, Saturday, 21 June 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Kevin McCarra's an idiot too.

Neil S, Saturday, 21 June 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't mind McCarra that much, I have to say can't stand Williams tho. Just standard aged meanderings.

Ronan, Saturday, 21 June 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Williams gets wheeled out for a whole range of different subjects as well. Manages to be a bore about football, music, art, whatever really.

Neil S, Saturday, 21 June 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah same views on every single subject

Ronan, Saturday, 21 June 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

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DG, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

ability to operate in a sensitive political environment

Lord Dixon Smith better not apply then.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 10 July 2008 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Those BNP jobs are subject to Equal Opportunities legislation.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 10 July 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Only applicants so far...
http://www.londonclasswar.org/images/scumbag.jpg

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 10 July 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Might submit a CV that just says "i'm white btw"

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 10 July 2008 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I have black friends. I work hard pay my taxes and dont commit crime. I would have hated the Nazis if I had been around in those days. And I vote BNP.

So Mr Smug Liberal journalist, your point is what exactly?

Posted by: Mark Greenwood | 10 Jul 2008 20:48:42

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Once again, it's one standard for black people and another standard for fucking idiots like myself. Get a grip, Gordon.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Which scruffy £2.75 per hour 19-year-old basement assistant didn't double check the ad vetting then?

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

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The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

That's why The Times is a good starting point. Maybe the Indy as well but yeah political balance and shit. The Torygraph is more solid across the board but when they decide to be ridiculous they top everyone
If you're going to be a bastard at least be straight about it like those darlings at the Metro or The Daily Hate Mail. I've said it before and I'll say it again, at least The Times is upfront about its fuckery. Also I think my hatred spewed over into 'wanting vengence' when they hired Peaches Geldof briefly. I swear my eyes rolled back into my head. That was the end for me.

ability to operate in a sensitive political environment
Lol at 'choice phrasing'

I have black friends. I work hard pay my taxes and dont commit crime. I would have hated the Nazis if I had been around in those days. And I vote BNP.

So Mr Smug Liberal journalist, your point is what exactly?

Posted by: Mark Greenwood | 10 Jul 2008 20:48:42
EXTRA lol. How does he explain that one to his many ethnic friends?

VeronaInTheClub, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, if you're going to have right wing keech and tollie then at least the Times is honest right wing keech and tollie.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, this job has is no longer live. You may be interested in the similar jobs listed on the right.

oh they're on the right alright do you see

DG, Friday, 11 July 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.londonclasswar.org/images/scumbag.jpg

Oh that crazy Courtney Love.

Mark C, Friday, 11 July 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

shalom auslander is a fanny unless he is being funny in which case I don't get it

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/30/blogging.usa

webinar, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 11:28 (fifteen years ago) link


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