no, they adapt the new iPhone and iPods to work with 30-pin dock connectors, like those on speakers, car stereos, or your old charging cables
― Lee626, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
right right
― the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
it looks really flimsy btw, like you could easily snap that skinny part off in your iPhone
― the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
xp - oops, yes they will adapt the ubiquitous USB-to-Apple connector cables too.
― Lee626, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
o wow, Windows 8 looks kind of awesome.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
Remember when Steve Jobs unveiled the original iPod nano by pulling it out of that little extra front pocket-within-a-pocket in his jeans? Now we're all going to use that little pocket to carry an new-to-old adapter plug everywhere we go
― Lee626, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
xp yeah I might have posted this thought somewhere on ilx before but after years of iOS's skeumorphic rounded-corner 3-d soft-lighting nonsense, the flat-color windows 8 rectangles are a refreshing change.
On the other hand, shit like dealing with device drivers probably still makes Windows a horrorshow
― the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
is one of the ideas of windows 8 that you use it the same way on mobile, tablet and desktop pcs, touchscreen or mouse?
― the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
not really, windows has been pretty chill for a whilex-post
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
that's their play, yeah xp
― the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
mh, just a couple weeks ago we had to bring my partner's home-built pc to the shop because we had somehow uninstalled windows and then made it impossible to reinstall. This was after trying to track down manufacturer drivers to make Skyrim work without bluescreening.
― the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
idk, man, that all comes down to manufacturer hardware and drivers. my stock work pc works fine (Dell, lol) and my mac runs windows 7 just fine
are we talking Windows 7 or an earlier, sucky version?
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
I think that Windows 7 is the best OS that Microsoft has ever released (no judgment on 8, yet), has a pretty decent security model and programming environment, and is relatively insulated from a lot of driver crashes. Vista mostly was, but was plagued by permissions and UI vagueness. XP was OK on release but was a shitheap that lived too long/.
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
7. I mean I am impressed with Windows 7 being able to connect to wireless networks, I'll give them that.
― the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
The desktop PC version of Win8 is going to have a steep learning curve for anyone used to 7, and I suspect many Windows PC users who don't have Windows phones or tablets (which is most of them) will choose the old Windows 7 interface on their desktops and laptops. Most of us already are used to either iOS or Android on mobile/touchscreen devices anyway.
Windows Phone also suffers from the paucity of apps for it, and a small selection of phones that run it (mostly Nokia)
― Lee626, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
Crazy. Yeah, 7 does bluetooth and wireless fine, XP really had that grafted on and it was always kind of hacky.
I have no idea how you partially uninstall Windows 7 unless it's due to weird software or hardware failure?
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
Me neither! It was pretty magical.
― the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
that's a good play imo
i gotta admit these home screens are pretty dope
http://blog.inner-active.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/windows_phone_7_107099550.jpg
― the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
windows:rocka dnr oll
― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
the managed home screens look nice and simple. but i've seen videos where they scroll to the next page and every app has its own square and its own colours and it looks like a carcrash.
― koogs, Thursday, 13 September 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link
I just got a new Win laptop and love 7
Ugh, part of the awesomeness of having an iPhone was being able to charge my phone almost ANYWHERE I went; like if I was at someone's house and my phone was dying and I asked them if they had an iPhone or iPod charger, 4 out of 5 times the answer was yes and the day was saved. Also Apple can gtfo with these grossly overpriced accessories. Does it come with an adapter bcz if it doesn't this will seriously make me reconsider upgrading in like 6mos
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
sounds like the adapter is an add-on you'd have to buy, $29 for the adapter and $39 for one with a cable. to boot, the phone comes out in september but the adapter won't be available until october.
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
rmde
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
I bet it's not even USB 3.0 capable.
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
It's not. So you're expected to just sit there for the hour or two it's going to take to back up a full 64gb phone I guess? Total trash.
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
monoprice will have their own adapters for $5 within a month, i'll bet
that said i almost never backup over USB anymore
― Nhex, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
monoprice will have their own adapters for $5 within a month, i'll betthat said i almost never backup over USB anymore
Oh that's right I forgot you can do wifi sync!
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
the new ones will have 802.11n, oh yeah!
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
I mean I am sorta looking forward to not having to delete stuff every time I need to update iOS or large apps
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
:(
I think I came up with the theory that OS X runs a lot better if you have at least 20% of your hard disk space free, but this was several years ago and on a laptop with less memory.
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
the standard recommendation for years has been to keep 10% of HD space free on a laptop/desktop computer as a bare minimum
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
It's a fair assumption, just because (regardless of OS) you're not spinning to edge of the disk as often, running out of hard cache, etc.
― Nhex, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
xp that recommendation brought to you by the same people who repair permissions when they can't send email, ime
― caek, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
haha
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
thx koogs, good to know!
― the late great, Thursday, 13 September 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
Unix depends on the free 10% so much that some versions of df don't even report it as free space, and say the disk is 100% used when it's only 90% full. (which means you can get a disk 105% full, with persistence)
― stet, Thursday, 13 September 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
When I upped my iPad to iOS 6 last night, the iTunes window claimed that the iPad was over-full by 9GB for a minute before the iPad rebooted. Impressive.
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 13 September 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
aw man I want ios 6 where do I sign up
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 13 September 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
t0rrents or ask a developer friend
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 13 September 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
caek when you've not got a lot of RAM the 10% free disk space thing is croosh ime
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 September 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
edward, it's getting released on the 19th of the month apparantly.
― jed_, Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
eh, you're not missing anything. they just messed up the maps app, removed the system youtube one, and changed some colors here and there
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
will google maps be a purchasable app?
― jed_, Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
i believe it's already available for free?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
there is no standalone google maps app yet afaik, but I would bet they will make one.
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
the youtube standalone app points the way for that
wouldn't upgrade my iphone to ios6 for the maps reason but would upgrade my ipad since I don't use that for navigation at all
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
won't update iphone to iOS6 for fear of messing it up but tempted to upgrade my iPad 3 - altho the thing is I use G maps quite a lot on the iPad (esp street view) so would not like to lose that - what are the benefits of iOS6 again?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 14 September 2012 09:28 (eleven years ago) link
<crickets>
― stet, Friday, 14 September 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link
well there's the new disimproved maps, and there's also some other things that are indispensable
― * The "no hands" rule can be compared to socialist tax policies (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 14 September 2012 09:59 (eleven years ago) link
you won't know you loved without it
― * The "no hands" rule can be compared to socialist tax policies (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 14 September 2012 10:00 (eleven years ago) link