New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

Does verizon force a plan change on a phone upgrade? I was able to keep my unlimited data plan on at&t. Unlike Ed's experience, though, they announced that they will warn you the first month you go over 3GB, then any following months it just starts capping your download speed. So you still get unlimited data, but it's slow as hell past 3GB.

about a year or so ago verizon stopped offering unlimited data plans but grandfathered in any existing customers. last june or july they announced if you take an upgrade you lose your unlimited data plan.

Ah, that's right. My friend is having that quandary.

man, I'm no cell-data luddite but I've still only managed to use <4GB of cell data total in the 9 months I've had my phone. I guess that spotify streaming chews up the megs

The home button on my 4 is dying so I'll likely replace it with a 5

― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Thursday, 13 September 2012

fwiw this can sometimes be solved with a reset (for real!)

yeah, try recalibrating your home button
http://lifehacker.com/5909709/recalibrate-your-idevice-home-button-for-snappier-performance

iPhones on CDMA carriers (i.e. Verizon and Sprint in the US) still won't be able to access the internet during a voice call, even in LTE areas (unless you're in a wi-fi hotspot for internet access). Just when I was about to go with Sprint for their unlimited data plan.

I've been using CDMA dumbphones on Verizon for about 7 years. CDMA phones normally don't use SIM cards, which sucks. If a CDMA phone has a SIM slot, it's so you can use the phone outside the small number of countries that have CDMA carriers. Changing to a new CDMA phone is a traumatic experience - you can't just swap the SIM card to the new phone; it needs a lengthy reconfiguration process, and you must manually reenter most of the info about your contacts. And your old text messages, calendars, etc. are gone for good. (yes I used BitPim which sometimes helps the process, but it's a big buggy and doesn't support many phones).

There is a way to transfer *everything* on your iPhone to a new one (texts, outgoing/received call logs, etc.) to a new iPhone, right?

I've gotten a new iphone while on verizon and haven't had any issues, old txt and vm messages were still available on the new phone, contacts, etc

even when I had dumb phones there was a verizon contact manager that transferred things over when I got a new one

but Verizon's contact manager (Backup Assistant) sucks. It only transfers names and mobile phone numbers, ignoring other parts of contact info like email or home address. And it doesn't transfer text messages, outgoing or received calls, calendar dates and reminders, or anything else.

yeah on my dum phone I only ever kept name/# so it wasn't an issue

There is a way to transfer *everything* on your iPhone to a new one (texts, outgoing/received call logs, etc.) to a new iPhone, right?

― Lee626, Thursday, September 13, 2012 6:59 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, just restore from a backup. even easier if you have an icloud acct

verizon kinda rules re: signal compared to at&t but it's surprising that you can't "end call and answer" on cdma when you're getting a call waiting call

I've never wanted to use the internet while on a call but by posting this I'm sure the occasion will arise shortly

is that related to me

is that something else you can't do on CDMA?

no that was a belated xp to lee626

xp

lol

i def use maps and browser/search on calls. thanks for reminding me to stick with AT&T!

going with Verizon I think, pretty happy to use mobile hotspot along with this: gotta get a family plan b/c we're getting two of these puppies but it includes mobile hotspot support for no extra charge

my first real smartphone! pretty excited even though Apple didn't end up including a swiss army knife inside it

yeah, try recalibrating your home button
http://lifehacker.com/5909709/recalibrate-your-idevice-home-button-for-snappier-performance

― skrill xx (cozen), Friday, 14 September 2012 03:20 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc that turned out to be a load of horse shit in 99.999% of cases. Most likely djp's home button is just dead.

I had my 4 replaced ~6 months ago due to a dead home button, so my current 4 is basically a new phone, new battery etc. I'm still getting a 5 but I won't be queuing up on day 1 like I did in 2010 (my 3g was an utter dog as per baaderonixx's post, so had to replace it quicksticks). Main incentive to switch is sluggishness (which will certainly worsen with ios6), but also 16 gb storage is killing me.

btw I should point out that the 3g was a dog anyway. Of the two years I had it, the keyboard performance was vaguely acceptable for maybe four months. I've still no idea how 8759768658 billion people put up with it for so long.

note that Verizon includes free hotspot with their new Share Everything plans, but any data uploads or downloads your connected computers use are taken out of your monthly allotment of data gigabytes - and computers tend to download more data than phones due to their much larger screens, etc.

xp - on CDMA basic phones, you can't easily do many of the things you do on GSM phones when you swap SIM cards.

As for talking and internet at the same time, lots of times I'd like to do this. Like, if you two decide to go out to a movie and want to see what's showing, or who's playing at the local clubs that night, or directions to someplace, you don't have to hang up, find your answer, then call back with the answer each time. Major advantage for AT&T and other GSM carries IMO. (this is not an issue for most of the world outside North America, since the entirety of Europe, Aus/NZ, and most elsewhere else is GSM-only). (list of countries with CDMA carriers)

maybe I'm the last person in the universe to have realised this, but the iphone and the ipad will have the same number of icons in the home screen (not counting the six-wide ipad dock thingo), so in many cases it will be possible to match exacrly your ios layouts across devices

OMG

falls apart as soon as you have one ipad-exclusive app tho

wait what I meant was FIVE ROWS OF BEACONS ICONS

falls apart as soon as you have one ipad-exclusive app tho

fill the hole with zing touch

I've never wanted to use the internet while on a call but by posting this I'm sure the occasion will arise shortly

Doesn't this also stop the phone ringing while you're on the Internet, though? It does on the 2G phone

does iOS6 still send you audible alerts and make your phone vibrate WHILE YOU ARE ON A CALL?

I'm still getting a 5 but I won't be queuing up on day 1 like I did in 2010

Just pre-ordered, will be posted to me when available. I should know to never say anything like ^^^ about anything ever.

(basically the deal is good v any other option I could have taken, so why wait)

I live in a country where it is forbidden to subsidize phones so any upgrade involve shelling out the full catalog price - makes it hard to get motivated to get the new one.

The subsidy thing is awful, because Apple just takes the actual price of the device, adds the price of subsidy to it, then charges the carriers that. We end up paying 399 or thereabouts either way.

Original iPhone had no subsidy and was 399. iPod Touch is the same minus radio and some bits and bobs and is 200. Basically these should be sold ot carrier for 400 and subsidised down to ~100 if the carriers want do that.

I live in a country where it is forbidden to subsidize phones

would immigrate

mine will cost au$107/mth inc. phone & 4 gb lte data (2 yrs)

oh and it's the 64 gb model

£70 a month! Wow. Do you have to make a downpayment?

nope, nothing upfront. pretty decent too considering it's on telstra, which has one of the most comprehensive 3g networks in the world.

£1680 in total then. Same on Three here is £1015, Orange is £1200. It looks like everyone's making the subsidy back with these 2-year contracts.

I'm boggling at those numbers. T-Mob offered me £17.50/month + free iPhone 4 = £420 TCO.

That was just before the 4S came out - maybe they were desperate to shift their old stock?

I did the sums based on my current (cheap, and no 4g access) plan + buying the phone outright, and the difference was negligible. the plan I just signed up for on its own + outright phone = way more than the same on contract. not sure why tbh.

I bought the 4s outright, but basically have saved myself v little I think (assuming I can ebay it now for ~450) as it's hard to get lots of data and tethering on any sort of cheap price plan

btw I'd have paid maybe 30% less if I'd gone with one of the other shitty networks here (one of which doesn't won't have a 4g network for another year)

Best TCO in the US, btw, seems to be Virgin Mobile.

i bought mine outright, did it because i spend >2 months/yr in three countries. but tbh, with my usage i'm sure i'd do the same if i were always in germany/uk. those 10 local currencies/month PAYG type things are a fine for me. the killer is the 2 months in the US (a land where the sim card costs more than a a month of all you can eat in the UK) and if you don't spend money every month you lose your number.

I have to put money on my French phone every few months to keep it from eating my number (tbh it's a French number, so it's tasty no doubt)

ordered mine from Verizon last night at 2:01cdt, felt very fanboyish but it was kinda fun to set the alarm, make a quick order, then go back to sleep

When I visit the US I just do the data-only ipad sim switch. $15 for 250mb for a month is all I need, and I just use voip for phone calls; but I ahrdly make any phone calls anywhere in the world.

do you use that data only sim in an iphone. does it work when you go back 6 months later, assuming you pay the $15 for the month, or do you need a new SIM?

worth it if only for the huge bump in performance. 3GS -> 4 seemed pretty significant to me, 3GS -> 5 would be huge i imagine.

Performance as in speed? I do find the 3G (not 3GS) a little sluggish. Just clocked it, launching iPod is about 6s, time lapse from clicking on Camera app to being ready to shoot also about 6s.

it's more that browsing the web in safari, over the course of a day, is going to be minutes longer than it would be on a newer phone