New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

there are some good things in ios6 i like, like the ability to send someone a quick text message when they call you if you cant pick up the phone

and do not disturb mode is good

xp: the idea being glossed over is "usage = feedback = oops we'd better stop making our maps suck", I think

not that im an expert at this sort of thing but if someone searches and then searches again its safe to flag that first search as prob not giving them what they want, also a lot of googles maps in the developing world are at least partially put together by their users via this open mapping project and have subsequently become the most accurate maps there are for a lot of places

for a long time my work address was wrong in google maps, and people would get misdirected all the time until I submitted a correction, not sure how they would've verified this unless they went knocking door to door

What’s missing from this conversation is that map usage is critical. More than half of Google’s mobile map usage is going away in the next month or two.

iphones are not 'more than half' of the worldwide market for smartphones

less than one hundred percent of people are going to upgrade to iOS 6 (or whatever it's called), and the set of 'people who actually need to use maps' ( = 'people who use them most often') are going to have a slower takeup rate / will switch back to google maps as soon as the option is available

I'm holding off on the upgrade because the maps app sucks. Moving to a new neighborhood in a couple of weeks and I need the transit & walk mapping functions to work.

i agree that that half number is prob pulled from thin air but iphone users do actually use their phones like lil computers way more than other smartphone owners so they wouldnt need to be half of the market for smartphones to generate half the usage

there are some good things in ios6 i like, like the ability to send someone a quick text message when they call you if you cant pick up the phone

I've been able to do that on my Android phone for, ooh, two years?

ha i thought the bias was probably 'iphone owners are likely to have more money and thus travel more'

i dunno, my gut says that downloading and using google maps on an android phone isn't really a power user thing. plus everyone i know does it! which is conclusive proof.

what would it take for apple to do a proper physical redesign of the iphone

define "proper"

Implanted in one's skull.

yeah, android is feature-rich compared to ios, but they're also disposable phones. my wife has a 2 year old android and she has wanted to throw it out the window for the last 9 months. was the coolest device when she got it, now it's just buggy and slow, no OS updates because the manufacturers are developing for whatever the latest hardware is.

First released April 29, 2010
Discontinued March 30, 2011

RIP HTC incredible

xps

i dunno, my gut says that downloading and using google maps on an android phone isn't really a power user thing. plus everyone i know does it! which is conclusive proof.

― human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:35 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah its just like everyone who tracks app usage data browsing data and w/e says that iphone user use their phones a lot more, part of that is theres a significant % of android owners that just use them like dumb phones, everyone w/an iphone got it to use the apps, except my dad

guys why is everyone so obsessed with the skull implant idea? Just take a step back and think about it. You really think that we are only a few years away from elective surgery to stick a microchip into your brain being common? and it even working?

To say nothing of the regulatory environment.

its just a joke... i think

http://insights.chitika.com/2012/mobile-manufacturer-market-share-august-2012-update/

dang

lol iPad usage didn't even occur to me

*usa and canada only

ya a lot of the iphone v android stats are distorted by the fact that it really should be ios v android, not just the ipad but the ipod touch too

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/android-market-share-q3-2012_n_1893292.html?utm_hp_ref=technology

basically my takeaway is "you can make stats say anything"

yeah, android is feature-rich compared to ios, but they're also disposable phones. my wife has a 2 year old android and she has wanted to throw it out the window for the last 9 months. was the coolest device when she got it, now it's just buggy and slow, no OS updates because the manufacturers are developing for whatever the latest hardware is.

This is iPhones too, iirc.

I had a iP 3G for an extra year beyond that two-year contract and it was almost useless for anything beyond calls and iPod functionality during most of that extra year.

"proper redesign" = Power Mac G4 to Power Mac G5.
"Warmed up will-this-do redesign" = Power Mac G4 AGP to Power Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors)

http://i.imgur.com/KJ5lp.png

i do not think that photo means what you think it means

"proper redesign" = Power Mac G4 to Power Mac G5.
"Warmed up will-this-do redesign" = Power Mac G4 AGP to Power Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors)

― stet, Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:01 AM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont get what people think making it look different will accomplish, whats the utility, i mean as far as the iphone 5 the things that make it look different are changes to the actual user experience, the screen is larger, its thinner, its lighter via being metal instead of glass - you could make an argument for other usability changes that would affect its look, but whats the point of a proper redesign

there are some good things in ios6 i like, like the ability to send someone a quick text message when they call you if you cant pick up the phone

I've been able to do that on my Android phone for, ooh, two years?

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:33 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://redstarresume.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/gold-medal.jpg

yeah i dont know if i really trust apple to do a 'proper redesign' right now given the way all their software has started to look

I had a iP 3G for an extra year beyond that two-year contract and it was almost useless for anything beyond calls and iPod functionality during most of that extra year.

― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:01 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so it was functional 100% longer than edwards wifes phone

also keeping your phone past the upgrade point is crazy, that super high monthly bill is paying off the price of a new phone in part

xxp i think the hardware side of things is ok, but yeah, if we're talking about a UI overhaul then the software has been getting worse not better for the past couple of yrs

yeah i dont know if i really trust apple to do a 'proper redesign' right now given the way all their software has started to look

― max, Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:07 AM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw i read a rumor thing that was all the ios hardware team is so mad at the software team for making everything so ugly and horrible on their beautiful device, it also said tho that steve jobs was the #1 backer of skeuomorphic design

christ

never trust a guy in dad jeans and a mock turtleneck

possiby this one? http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670760/will-apples-tacky-software-design-philosophy-cause-a-revolt

it said that stitched leather look on the calendar was inspired by upholstery on his jet lmao

ya it mustve been that one

i dont get what people think making it look different will accomplish, whats the utility

i suspect it's not really about utility, it's about people wanting shit that looks shiny new at some basic consumerist level so that other people will go "ooooh".

It's like the difference between a BMW mid-season refresh w/exciting new headlamp design for 2013 and "all-new 3 series!" If BMW did an all-new 3 series and left it with the old body shape its customers would be left doing that thing of explaining to their neighbours "yeah no this is actually all new, and like it has amazing new active suspension honest it's great" when they just wanted their neighbours to go "oooh, wel jel"

Jony Ive is supposed to puke every time he sees stitched leather

also keeping your phone past the upgrade point is crazy, that super high monthly bill is paying off the price of a new phone in part

The wait was for a redesign, but eventually gave that up.

According to the report, Apple's iOS chief Scott Forstall has long been a proponent of incorporating skeuomorphic features in the company's software, with Steve Jobs having supported and even originated that design direction for Apple's products. But others such as hardware guru Jonathan Ive find the inclusion of such features distasteful, and Apple's designers have reportedly been divided into camps over which direction to take Apple's products.

Jony Ive is supposed to puke every time he sees stitched leather

― stet, Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:13 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ja the interior of steve jobs's jet is literally covered in ive's sick

and his wallet if full of his own sick

theres some extension or terminal line you can run that makes ical brushed metal again, i did it, even the brushed metal is nagl tho imo

i suspect it's not really about utility, it's about people wanting shit that looks shiny new at some basic consumerist level so that other people will go "ooooh".

― stet, Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:13 AM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

true, tho i dont mean to get all john gruber here but apple be selling a shit ton of these things

also keeping your phone past the upgrade point is crazy, that super high monthly bill is paying off the price of a new phone in part

In the UK you can drop down to a "SIM-only" plan after the upgrade point – giving you a monthly bill of about half what it was before if you keep your old handset.

just saying that your enthusiasm for that particular feature is misplaced

xp to s1ocki

how does unlocking during/at the end of contracts work in the UK?

metaphor in ui design is good so people can start from a base of familiarity, skeuomorphism is just taking things perversely far tho