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Implanted in one's skull.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, android is feature-rich compared to ios, but they're also disposable phones. my wife has a 2 year old android and she has wanted to throw it out the window for the last 9 months. was the coolest device when she got it, now it's just buggy and slow, no OS updates because the manufacturers are developing for whatever the latest hardware is.

First released April 29, 2010
Discontinued March 30, 2011

RIP HTC incredible

xps

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno, my gut says that downloading and using google maps on an android phone isn't really a power user thing. plus everyone i know does it! which is conclusive proof.

― human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:35 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah its just like everyone who tracks app usage data browsing data and w/e says that iphone user use their phones a lot more, part of that is theres a significant % of android owners that just use them like dumb phones, everyone w/an iphone got it to use the apps, except my dad

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

guys why is everyone so obsessed with the skull implant idea? Just take a step back and think about it. You really think that we are only a few years away from elective surgery to stick a microchip into your brain being common? and it even working?

To say nothing of the regulatory environment.

the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

its just a joke... i think

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

dang

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

lol iPad usage didn't even occur to me

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

*usa and canada only

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

ya a lot of the iphone v android stats are distorted by the fact that it really should be ios v android, not just the ipad but the ipod touch too

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/android-market-share-q3-2012_n_1893292.html?utm_hp_ref=technology

basically my takeaway is "you can make stats say anything"

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, android is feature-rich compared to ios, but they're also disposable phones. my wife has a 2 year old android and she has wanted to throw it out the window for the last 9 months. was the coolest device when she got it, now it's just buggy and slow, no OS updates because the manufacturers are developing for whatever the latest hardware is.

This is iPhones too, iirc.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

I had a iP 3G for an extra year beyond that two-year contract and it was almost useless for anything beyond calls and iPod functionality during most of that extra year.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

"proper redesign" = Power Mac G4 to Power Mac G5.
"Warmed up will-this-do redesign" = Power Mac G4 AGP to Power Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors)

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/KJ5lp.png

i do not think that photo means what you think it means

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

"proper redesign" = Power Mac G4 to Power Mac G5.
"Warmed up will-this-do redesign" = Power Mac G4 AGP to Power Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors)

― stet, Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:01 AM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont get what people think making it look different will accomplish, whats the utility, i mean as far as the iphone 5 the things that make it look different are changes to the actual user experience, the screen is larger, its thinner, its lighter via being metal instead of glass - you could make an argument for other usability changes that would affect its look, but whats the point of a proper redesign

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

there are some good things in ios6 i like, like the ability to send someone a quick text message when they call you if you cant pick up the phone

I've been able to do that on my Android phone for, ooh, two years?

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:33 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://redstarresume.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/gold-medal.jpg

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i dont know if i really trust apple to do a 'proper redesign' right now given the way all their software has started to look

max, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

I had a iP 3G for an extra year beyond that two-year contract and it was almost useless for anything beyond calls and iPod functionality during most of that extra year.

― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:01 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so it was functional 100% longer than edwards wifes phone

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

also keeping your phone past the upgrade point is crazy, that super high monthly bill is paying off the price of a new phone in part

max, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

xxp i think the hardware side of things is ok, but yeah, if we're talking about a UI overhaul then the software has been getting worse not better for the past couple of yrs

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i dont know if i really trust apple to do a 'proper redesign' right now given the way all their software has started to look

― max, Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:07 AM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw i read a rumor thing that was all the ios hardware team is so mad at the software team for making everything so ugly and horrible on their beautiful device, it also said tho that steve jobs was the #1 backer of skeuomorphic design

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

christ

max, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

never trust a guy in dad jeans and a mock turtleneck

max, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

possiby this one? http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670760/will-apples-tacky-software-design-philosophy-cause-a-revolt

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

it said that stitched leather look on the calendar was inspired by upholstery on his jet lmao

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

ya it mustve been that one

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

i dont get what people think making it look different will accomplish, whats the utility

i suspect it's not really about utility, it's about people wanting shit that looks shiny new at some basic consumerist level so that other people will go "ooooh".

It's like the difference between a BMW mid-season refresh w/exciting new headlamp design for 2013 and "all-new 3 series!" If BMW did an all-new 3 series and left it with the old body shape its customers would be left doing that thing of explaining to their neighbours "yeah no this is actually all new, and like it has amazing new active suspension honest it's great" when they just wanted their neighbours to go "oooh, wel jel"

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

Jony Ive is supposed to puke every time he sees stitched leather

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

also keeping your phone past the upgrade point is crazy, that super high monthly bill is paying off the price of a new phone in part

The wait was for a redesign, but eventually gave that up.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

According to the report, Apple's iOS chief Scott Forstall has long been a proponent of incorporating skeuomorphic features in the company's software, with Steve Jobs having supported and even originated that design direction for Apple's products. But others such as hardware guru Jonathan Ive find the inclusion of such features distasteful, and Apple's designers have reportedly been divided into camps over which direction to take Apple's products.

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

Jony Ive is supposed to puke every time he sees stitched leather

― stet, Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:13 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ja the interior of steve jobs's jet is literally covered in ive's sick

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

and his wallet if full of his own sick

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

theres some extension or terminal line you can run that makes ical brushed metal again, i did it, even the brushed metal is nagl tho imo

max, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

i suspect it's not really about utility, it's about people wanting shit that looks shiny new at some basic consumerist level so that other people will go "ooooh".

― stet, Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:13 AM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

true, tho i dont mean to get all john gruber here but apple be selling a shit ton of these things

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

also keeping your phone past the upgrade point is crazy, that super high monthly bill is paying off the price of a new phone in part

In the UK you can drop down to a "SIM-only" plan after the upgrade point – giving you a monthly bill of about half what it was before if you keep your old handset.

Alba, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

just saying that your enthusiasm for that particular feature is misplaced

xp to s1ocki

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

how does unlocking during/at the end of contracts work in the UK?

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

metaphor in ui design is good so people can start from a base of familiarity, skeuomorphism is just taking things perversely far tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

I open up my wallet, and it is full of Jon Ive's sick.

ledge, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

guys i dont know how to tell you this but the iphone is in fact jonny ives sick

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

true, tho i dont mean to get all john gruber here but apple be selling a shit ton of these things

yeah, but it wasn't by the end of the 4s -- past few months it was no longer the best-selling smartphone, which is huge. The big uptake has a huge amount of people who were hanging on for the 5 (whatever it looked like) built into it.

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

be interesting to see if this maps mess affects ios6 uptake

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

the foxconn factory is all stitched leather

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

xp yeah i was thinking this might be the first rev that doesn't have basically 100% uptake within weeks

would that affect app development at all?

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

I open up my wallet, and it is full of Jon Ive's sick.

― ledge, Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:18 AM (8 minutes ago)

A+

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

yeah despite my good experience w/ the new app, the maps thing is a major misstep

being able to access the google maps via browser is a workaround but I don't think it has the integration into contacts and such?

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

my kids had a ball last night alternately confusing and insulting siri on the ipad 3

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

or directions or streetview.

caek: yeah, there are a ton of useful APIs in iOS6 that I think people have been hoping to use, and none of them will get looked at if the market starts fragmenting.

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

just saying that your enthusiasm for that particular feature is misplaced

xp to s1ocki

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:17 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's misplaced because you already had that feature? how does that make any sense? i didn't have it!

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link


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