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also keeping your phone past the upgrade point is crazy, that super high monthly bill is paying off the price of a new phone in part

The wait was for a redesign, but eventually gave that up.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

According to the report, Apple's iOS chief Scott Forstall has long been a proponent of incorporating skeuomorphic features in the company's software, with Steve Jobs having supported and even originated that design direction for Apple's products. But others such as hardware guru Jonathan Ive find the inclusion of such features distasteful, and Apple's designers have reportedly been divided into camps over which direction to take Apple's products.

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

Jony Ive is supposed to puke every time he sees stitched leather

― stet, Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:13 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ja the interior of steve jobs's jet is literally covered in ive's sick

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

and his wallet if full of his own sick

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

theres some extension or terminal line you can run that makes ical brushed metal again, i did it, even the brushed metal is nagl tho imo

max, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

i suspect it's not really about utility, it's about people wanting shit that looks shiny new at some basic consumerist level so that other people will go "ooooh".

― stet, Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:13 AM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

true, tho i dont mean to get all john gruber here but apple be selling a shit ton of these things

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

also keeping your phone past the upgrade point is crazy, that super high monthly bill is paying off the price of a new phone in part

In the UK you can drop down to a "SIM-only" plan after the upgrade point – giving you a monthly bill of about half what it was before if you keep your old handset.

Alba, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

just saying that your enthusiasm for that particular feature is misplaced

xp to s1ocki

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

how does unlocking during/at the end of contracts work in the UK?

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

metaphor in ui design is good so people can start from a base of familiarity, skeuomorphism is just taking things perversely far tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

I open up my wallet, and it is full of Jon Ive's sick.

ledge, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

guys i dont know how to tell you this but the iphone is in fact jonny ives sick

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

true, tho i dont mean to get all john gruber here but apple be selling a shit ton of these things

yeah, but it wasn't by the end of the 4s -- past few months it was no longer the best-selling smartphone, which is huge. The big uptake has a huge amount of people who were hanging on for the 5 (whatever it looked like) built into it.

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

be interesting to see if this maps mess affects ios6 uptake

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

the foxconn factory is all stitched leather

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

xp yeah i was thinking this might be the first rev that doesn't have basically 100% uptake within weeks

would that affect app development at all?

caek, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

I open up my wallet, and it is full of Jon Ive's sick.

― ledge, Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:18 AM (8 minutes ago)

A+

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

yeah despite my good experience w/ the new app, the maps thing is a major misstep

being able to access the google maps via browser is a workaround but I don't think it has the integration into contacts and such?

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

my kids had a ball last night alternately confusing and insulting siri on the ipad 3

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

or directions or streetview.

caek: yeah, there are a ton of useful APIs in iOS6 that I think people have been hoping to use, and none of them will get looked at if the market starts fragmenting.

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

just saying that your enthusiasm for that particular feature is misplaced

xp to s1ocki

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:17 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's misplaced because you already had that feature? how does that make any sense? i didn't have it!

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

You had the wrong phone is the point.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, may as well own an HD-DVD player, fools.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

Perhaps the most infamous culprit of this design direction is Apple’s Game Center, the social-gaming app that’s dressed in a lacquered wood and green felt that lends it the feel of a casino. "Steve pushed very hard to have everything--the felt-cloth table, the game chips--look like they would in real life," says another former Apple designer. "Internally, a lot of people were shocked by the richness. Many think it’s gone too far."

it looks like a home computer game from the 80s, and not in a charming way

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

Game Center is one of the fugliest things I've ever seen

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

i die a little inside every time i see calendar on the ipad.

ledge, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

will be funny to find out that apple execs and sales reps are showing up late for meetings because they can't find their hotel, customer offices, etc

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

You had the wrong phone is the point.

― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:37 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good point

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

606 articles on google news about "iphone google maps"

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

so this maps business seems like less of a deal if you live where i do (ie - not a lot of public transit to misplace, in america so the mistakes will likely be addressed before the rest a yous)

out of curiosity: anyone use the chrome browser on iOS? i use it on my ipad and greatly prefer it

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

I've been using both since chrome was released and haven't made my mind up. neither are perfect.

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

tried it to get around the tab reloading problem, seemed slower n clunkier than safari.

ledge, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

*is perfect

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

I've been using Chrome for about a month now -- no issues, far more responsive than Safari was.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

lol at some of these articles

“Mapping is probably the biggest weakness of iOS 6, but it’s still a relatively minor weakness,” Gartenberg said. “Two million customers have already said it’s not an issue.”

yeah they also haven't received their phones yet

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

haha

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

pls pls let fedex be using ios maps to deliver phones

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

i die a little inside every time i see calendar on the ipad.

It pisses me off that notes/reminders are so fugly, because they are the only notes/todo apps taht update in the background

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

maps on iphone used to be terrible - I remember traveling with some folks in early 2010 and being very thankful I had my blackberry - but obv this is a bad time to cede map dominance to google. apple's got enough money to map every inch of the planet by hand tho don't they?

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

haha a friend of mine is currently having a meltdown over how terrible Apple's maps are, it is delighting me

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

a huge change here is that they're being so massively ridiculed over them. The whole antennagate stuff was lame jabs and butthurt whining, this is just "lol apple". I bet they can't stand that.

stet, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

guys apple and google are very likely using the same basic datasets for their maps

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

*gasps*

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

kinda depends on what you mean by basic and who cares when the user experience deviates so wildly

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

the dataset............

........................is the universe

max, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

the user experience..... is life.

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

oooooommmm

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

google's got a set of data they've been refining and updating for years and years, apple's using tom tom's data now

apple can fix annoying stuff like having to type "brothers" instead of "bros" to find a business, but if it doesn't know the correct coordinates for your address, or that a street or business no longer exists, welp

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

hoping there's some sweet death race 2000 style action between google's steetview cars and the apple carts in the future

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link


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