i tried to watch this recently, i found it oddly unamenable. does it become less arch after the first ten minutes?
― human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
Kate Mara = Rooney's older sister.
― canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
does it become less arch after the first ten minutes?
― human centipede hz (thomp)
Oh it's incredibly arch. I still love it.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
The archness is great! He's like Richard III talking to the audience about his vile plans.
― computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 September 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
Boo hiss arch! This is one of the best tv shows of all time and an excellent primer for anyone interested in the way power, corruption and influence works in society. They should show it in schools instead of pse or civics lessons.
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Friday, 21 September 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
That scene chap posted upthread is pure choreography.
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Friday, 21 September 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
who's psyched
― just sayin, Friday, 1 February 2013 10:32 (eleven years ago) link
i'm curious
― schlump, Friday, 1 February 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
I’ve just finished enjoying watching the first episode for free and my head is spinning that I can watch the rest of the series in one go right away if I subscribe, mixed feelings about the idea, but very tempted to keep going tonight.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 1 February 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
this is pretty good so far. spacey was a good choice
― am0n, Saturday, 2 February 2013 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
So far so good, one episode in. Makes sense that the show's creator also wrote The Ides of March. This won't give you new insight into politics, but everybody does great work all around.
Fincher sure loves diagonals.
Love how he shoots the first newsroom scene, since we all know we're looking at THE WASHINGTON POST.
Also nice seeing Constance Zimmer do something very different from Dana Gordon on Entourage.
― a tidy profit in Russia (Eazy), Saturday, 2 February 2013 05:27 (eleven years ago) link
I also love that Netflix basically released a 13-hour, $100 million movie today, seemingly without offering it early to critics. Now they're catching up in a way that reminds me of...was it Mason & Dixon or some other doorstop that wasn't released in advance?
― a tidy profit in Russia (Eazy), Saturday, 2 February 2013 05:48 (eleven years ago) link
I'm on episode two, enjoying it. Spacey outclasses his castmates and fakey-WashPost and not-the-Kennedy-Center made me giggle but for the most part it's totally diggable. And unlike the premiere of The Americans, there's no rape scene in the first 20 minutes!
Is the narration to the camera an import from the UK series?
― Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Saturday, 2 February 2013 07:31 (eleven years ago) link
the exterior of fakey-washpost is the baltimore sun bldg
― am0n, Saturday, 2 February 2013 07:33 (eleven years ago) link
yes
― am0n, Saturday, 2 February 2013 07:35 (eleven years ago) link
my other initial impression here is that Netflix made its big play and "hit it out of the park" or some sports metaphor
― Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Saturday, 2 February 2013 07:42 (eleven years ago) link
and yes Morbius, the villain is a dem
― am0n, Saturday, 2 February 2013 07:43 (eleven years ago) link
yay, the actual Metro! On TV!
― Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Saturday, 2 February 2013 07:48 (eleven years ago) link
warms the cockles of my homesick heart
This is very good, Spacey is no Ian Richardson in terms of pure malevolent evil, but my initial worries about the pacing over 13 hours have largely been allayed.
If this is what the brave new world of television looks like, count me in.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 2 February 2013 12:15 (eleven years ago) link
i think they released it to critics early... nyt had a big review yesterday morning
― max, Saturday, 2 February 2013 13:04 (eleven years ago) link
There are some etiquette questions surrounding this. What can I talk about and it not be considered a spoiler?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 2 February 2013 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
Well that would make sense as they're actually in power (now and, fingers crossed, for the foreseeable future), but the original was devised and written by a Tory of course, in fact I saw him popping up in the House of Lords recently
― Designated Striver (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 February 2013 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
Missed this until now, only saw the NYTimes feature on it and a bunch of other reviews yesterday saying "OK, as we get through all 13 hours..."
― a tidy profit in Russia (Eazy), Saturday, 2 February 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Man I eat this stuff up.
― bleh (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 February 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
Crits got two episodes.
― Simon H., Saturday, 2 February 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
Was wondering about this, too. Everyone will be watching on their own schedule.
― jaymc, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
I'd say just establish a date when this thread goes from no-spoilers to full-season spoilers. Or start a spoilers thread. Either one?
I plan on watching 3-13 in the next couple days, personally.
― Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
Really enjoyed the first ep. NYTimes review got this one all wrong.
― calstars, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
I'm 3 in and enjoying it if not exactly convinced of where it's going. Felt a huge difference between Fincher and James Foley.
― Gukbe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
aw dang, they switch fincher out? i'm in the second ep and was getting so psyched for a 13-hour fincher movie
― j., Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:39 (eleven years ago) link
Foley directs a few, some other guy I can't remember, and...Joel Schumacher...
― Gukbe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
uhhhh
― j., Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
That was my reaction
― Gukbe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
The cinematographer is the same, so the palette remains but Fincher is too idiosyncratic to not notice the difference.
― Gukbe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
Not a spoiler, but episode 3 deals with the infamous Peachoid of Gaffney, South Carolina. Never expected to see that.
― The Mini-Mamas and the Mini-Papas (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:47 (eleven years ago) link
Ok so 2 eps in I think the show is really good but I am also worried abt it being tooooooo cynical and cold hearted. Like both spacey And robin wright ex-penn are super Machiavellian manipulative archetypes and they're married and for some reason have this weird routine where she puts out his cigarette. Like Kate Mara is obv the ellen parsons character but
― jaymc, Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:21 (eleven years ago) link
When I get through with u
― jaymc, Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:22 (eleven years ago) link
friend who loved the original hating this one so far.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:59 (eleven years ago) link
you… owe… i…
― j., Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:47 (eleven years ago) link
2 eps in and it is super cold. Also somewhat simple. Like they keep referring to this bill as simply "education". Hey prez, what bill are you going to try to push through first? Will it be FOREIGN POLICY, DRUGS, or EDUCATION?
People don't talk about politics like that. It nags at me.
― big firework, Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:14 (eleven years ago) link
later on they start calling it by name occasionally.
super cold is awesome. this is p. dope. all-at-once release is kind of a weird experience though. i expect it to get less talked up than a 'normal' show.
― j., Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:15 (eleven years ago) link
I loved the first & 2 episodes in this one is nearly as good. Spacey is great. Maybe the Foley episodes will change my mind.
IIRC in the early stages of its existence the healthcare reform bill was mostly just referred to as... "Healthcare reform." Meanwhile now Obama is working on... "immigration." There's a lot that feels wrong or off abt its depiction of politics (and even more of journalism) but that's not one imo
― max, Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:32 (eleven years ago) link
"The first" = the original series
bit ~on the nose~ in places but that's maybe to be expected
ploughed through the first two epis; on board for now at least
― do you even frogbs? (cozen), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
the Gaffney, SC stuff is kind of lol. Spacey's accent not very Gaffney at ALL.
― The Mini-Mamas and the Mini-Papas (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
he's good though!
reined in spacey is best spacey. the boiling underneath spacey. fell asleep watching the first one last night but will resume tonight. i hope they had lots and lots of creative meetings about the whole turning to the camera thing. could definitely do without it. a voiceover would have been enough.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
Like the turning to the camera thing. Very Richie III
― Gukbe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
Or maybe Lovejoy. Either way!
(Season 5, I should say.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 20 December 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link
I alluded to this exchange a couple of years ago, but I've got quote the whole thing--really enjoying the Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? aspects of the Claire-Annette dynamic this time around.
Claire: "I don't think your brother is gonna let up, Annette. Until he gets his ring kissed directly, I think."
Annette: "Reminds me of someone you were married to."
Claire: "Oh, no. Bill and Francis are very different people."
Anette: "Agreed. You know I slept with him once."
Claire: "Your brother?"
― clemenza, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
Almost three years--I've got to revisit this every so often.
I bet I asked this above somewhere, but: in S1, Peter Russo's self-implosion sets in motion the events that lead to Frank becoming VP, everything orchestrated by Frank himself. But that all starts with the watershed bill being defeated, and Frank seems genuinely enraged about that (and about Claire's betrayal on the bill). If the bill had passed, though, how does he then become VP? The plan that seems so carefully worked out after the bill goes down, did Frank just improvise everything on the spot?
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 November 2023 21:24 (four months ago) link