Sam Fuller S/D

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White Dog bootlegs aren't so hard to find--Kim's probably has one.

I've only seen a few real prints of Fuller films and I have a MOMI membership, so I'm catching as much of that retro as possible.

C0L1N B..., Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't know of Street of No Return at all!

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

For those who ain't near the retro (or don't like bootlegs), rumor has it that White Dog is one of the titles Paramount is leasing to Criterion (ala Ace In The Hole and If....).

C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Is his Korean War movie (Steel Helmets?) ever going to come out on DVD?

milo z, Thursday, 19 April 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i kinda liked white dog but I don't remember why. presence of kristy mcnichol simply added to roffles.

dead pigeon on beethoven street is kind of a long-duration marathon, but the high points are so scattershot, surprising and weird that it definitely rewarded my attention. the final showdown fight is flat out baffling. also, soundtrack by Can is an uptempo relentless version of 'Vitamin C'.

pickup, naked kiss, shock corridor yeah, masterpieces pretty much

Milton Parker, Thursday, 19 April 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
I think I could make it out to Astoria for Park Row Sunday at 4:30.

(Colin, say hi if you spot me)

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

From dvdbeaver:

Eclipse Series 5 will be The First Films of Samuel Fuller (I Shot Jesse James, The Baron of Arizona and The Steel Helmet) - scheduled for August 14th, 2007
"His films have been called raw, outrageous, sensational, and daring. In four decades of directing, Samuel Fuller created a legendarily idiosyncratic oeuvre, examining U.S. history and mythmaking in westerns, film noirs, and war epics."

C. Grisso/McCain, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

How was Park Row, Morbs? I forgot all about this retrospective until seeing this thread again.

C0L1N B..., Monday, 21 May 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

From dvdbeaver:

i don't follow this post; does it mean these movies are being screened or coming out on dvd?

it kinda sucks that his stuff that's available (the criterions) are the late 50's crazy-crazy stuff, and the earlier more focused movies aren't

gff, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Park Row is pretty "crazy" for a focused movie. Great handheld riot scene near the end.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't follow this post; does it mean these movies are being screened or coming out on dvd?

Coming out on DVD. Eclipse is a recently launched sister label to Criterion that puts out reasonably affordable box sets. Their mission statement:

Eclipse presents a selection of lost, forgotten, or overshadowed classics in simple, affordable editions. Each series is a brief cinematheque for the adventurous home viewer. Once a month, Eclipse will present a set of these films, usually from three to five titles, focusing on a particular director or theme. Our goal is to make available to the public many important works that until now have been impossible to see outside of the theatrical revival-house circuit. These range from some of the most sought-after titles from the world’s greatest filmmakers to eye-opening discoveries from around the world. We are proud to present these classic works, which represent the full breadth and depth of cinema history.

C. Grisso/McCain, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

oh hot

gff, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I was channel surfing last night and came upon a doc about Asian actors in Hollywood on PBS. They showed a couple of clips from The Steel Helmet and The Crimson Kimono in it. Now I must see those films. Apparently Fuller was one of the first writer/directors to cast Asian-American performers in realistic, non-sterotyped roles. Didn't know that.

C. Grisso/McCain, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

well, the lead female in House of Bamboo, Shirley Yamaguchi, is still mostly a stereotype. (Robert Ryan's really sumpin as the villain.)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

They didn't talk about that one...but then the doc (or at least the bit I saw) was about Actors and male stereotypes.

C. Grisso/McCain, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

White Dog screens in Brooklyn tonight.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

shd I go see Hell and High Water? (BAM theater 'Scope)

Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 August 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Bunuel would have loved White Dog, it apes his rhythms so.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 June 2010 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Saw The Steel Helmet the other day. Stone-cold one of the greatest war movies ever made.

acoleuthic, Sunday, 14 November 2010 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

the last half-hour is staggering on every level. how a motionless statue can become one of the most compelling film characters you'll see in a long while has to be seen to be believed

acoleuthic, Sunday, 14 November 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

A double dose of Fuller Criterion reissues, via yr two favorite critics:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/review/shock-corridor/1914

http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/review/the-naked-kiss/1915

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

you can tell from that pair who has to work harder to like full-on-crazy Fuller.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Which of you is number 1 and which is number 2?

Meme From Turner (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

(That was a reference to Murder By Death that I couldn't resist, sorry)

Meme From Turner (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I expected better than "You look like #2 to me."

In the Fuller doc on the Shock Corridor disc, Jim Jarmusch tells a story of Fuller winning a "humanitarian" prize for it at some fest, and he took the stage and said "This is not a humanitarian film, it's a hard-hitting action movie! Give your award to Ingmar Bergman."

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Na, you look like #1, Eric looks like #2

Forgot Stanley Cortez had shot that. Guess it's time to see it again and watch that documentary.

Meme From Turner (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

britishers: Pickup on South Street on ch 4 tonight (00:35)

koogs, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

love the idea of someone earnestly referring to their film as a "hard-hitting action movie"

based god fillets with olive oil, cook for an additional 6 minutes (donna rouge), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

oops, turns out 00:35 Monday is in the morning and before 17:28 Monday. who knew?

koogs, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link

In the Fuller doc on the Shock Corridor disc, Jim Jarmusch tells a story of Fuller winning a "humanitarian" prize for it at some fest, and he took the stage and said "This is not a humanitarian film, it's a hard-hitting action movie! Give your award to Ingmar Bergman."
hahaha awesome!

Nhex, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

britishers: Hell And High Water on ch4 on friday, 13:00

koogs, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:34 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

I went to a screening of Sirk's "Shockproof" last week. Fuller's script is so daffy.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

just saw "white dog" and it left me pretty cold. goes for lurid but didn't really gel up i don't think. i don't think fuller really understands racism. or dogs. or dialogue, really.

goole, Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

watched 'the baron of arizona' - not bad, vincent price mostly nails the stoic, goateed villain who wants to steal the whole territory w/o getting his hands dirty

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 February 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

In the Fuller doc on the Shock Corridor disc, Jim Jarmusch tells a story of Fuller winning a "humanitarian" prize for it at some fest, and he took the stage and said "This is not a humanitarian film, it's a hard-hitting action movie! Give your award to Ingmar Bergman."

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:29 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

O wait...

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/563044_10152581847030565_1690753018_n.jpg

Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 February 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

eight months pass...

http://i.imgur.com/FqxtRP5.jpg?1

Congress Poland (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:05 (ten years ago) link

wow

sarahell, Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link

In case you didn't know or I didn't post it already up thread, the book the film of White Dog was based on was written by Jean Seberg's French husband Romain Gary. Used to have a copy but not sure where it is right now.

Sodade Stereo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link

I watched that last night. For some reason I find the basic premise of a racist dog inherently funny ("dude yr dog is drunk and telling racist jokes you gotta do something""ugh my stupid dog is so racist.") Film does not play it for laughs obviously. I give fuller credit for going all in on the allegory tho.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Shock Corridor is as tawdry and hysterical as I'd remembered. It's like a sledgehammer checklist of the day's big issues: civil rights, the arms race, the pill (translated here as one word: "nymphos"), even a shadowy soldier-turned-Communist-sympathizer (the film actually came out two months before the JFK assassination). I'd have to go back and check, but Hoberman must have spent some time on it in The Dream Life. Funny seeing the Victor Buono-esque guy who plays the gay pimp in Advise and Consent. Larry Tucker--didn't realize he was Paul Mazursky's writing and producing partner early on.

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/11/17/40/11174075_ori.jpg

clemenza, Saturday, 1 March 2014 23:50 (ten years ago) link

He's in Blast of Silence as well.

Virginia, Plain and Tall (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 March 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link

I don't think I'd ever heard of that--will have to keep an eye open for it, looks great. He was also in a Monkees episode.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 March 2014 00:00 (ten years ago) link

IIRC there's a good piece about him, maybe on the WFMU website?

espring (amateurist), Sunday, 2 March 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link

i admit I tend like Sam Fuller's less nutty films more, but this film is something special.

espring (amateurist), Sunday, 2 March 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link

I like how they have Shock Corridor on the theater marquee when Constance Towers arrives in the new town in The Naked Kiss.

Virginia, Plain and Tall (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 2 March 2014 01:00 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Fixed Bayonets! (1951)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043540/

not great. but the last shot, the remaining men walking towards the camera in single file, was nicely done.

there's another film set in a similar situation (korean war, snowy mountains. maybe something about a big horn or music used as psychological weapon or a cave that needed attacking) but i can't remember the details.

koogs, Monday, 7 July 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link

(maybe Retreat, Hell (1952) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045082/ )

koogs, Monday, 7 July 2014 12:11 (nine years ago) link

(Pork Chop Hill (1959) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053183/ mentions the speakers)

koogs, Monday, 7 July 2014 12:20 (nine years ago) link

saw White Dog awhile ago. such a strange movie.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

My first viewing of Forty Guns. My god! A helluva picture. Aimless, what makes you think this is camp or like Johnny Guitar? While it's hyperrealist in moments, there's nothing phony about the emotions. When Bonnell guns down his own brother on his wedding night, Fuller fades to his bride in long shot standing mute beside the funeral train next to the chansonnier singing a ballad. It's so austere that I teared up.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 01:32 (one year ago) link

When packing up books recently I discovered I still have Fuller's autobiography. When I unpack the boxes again I'm gonna reread it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 02:33 (one year ago) link

Um, I was explicitly quarreling with Daniel Rf's idea that Fuller intended the film to be 'camp'. I used Johnny Guitar as a counter-example, not as a complementary one.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 02:38 (one year ago) link

Actually, it was Daniel who cited Johnny Guitar. I cited Rocky Horror Picture Show and Duel in the Dust. I think Fuller knew he was making a highly stylized film. The cinematography and staging are not reaching for realism. Your terms were hyper -realism and austere. I'd agree with that.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 02:45 (one year ago) link

Sure! I wasn't quarreling. I wondered what you found ridiculous. Like I wrote, much of the film Fuller pitches at an operatic level to match its wide compositions, but I didn't laugh.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 02:46 (one year ago) link

Characters and plot raised to an operatic pitch can easily be viewed as ridiculous if you aren't feeling in synch with it.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 02:53 (one year ago) link

Every Fuller movie I've ever seen has gotten the tone exactly right. Lurid but never so over-the-top that it breaks the mood.

I think my favorite might be House of Bamboo. It's amazing-looking.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 02:58 (one year ago) link

I think the fourty gunmen parading in front of Stanwyck is pretty high camp, yes.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 11:33 (one year ago) link

^

Gene Markey’s Goin’ Off (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 11:46 (one year ago) link

Well, wouldn't you have volunteered?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 12:34 (one year ago) link

Who do you think you are, Houdini?

Gene Markey’s Goin’ Off (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 13:25 (one year ago) link

Some very Lynchian moments in "The Naked Kiss"

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Finally got around to watching Dead Pigeon On Beethoven Street - the made-for-German TV movie Fuller made in 1973. It's...well - directionless French new wave. There is a plot about a international extortion gang who funds political black mail traps, but it's mostly us (via the anonymously acted american PI) vicariously surveilling Christa Lang (a.k.a. the future Mrs. Samuel Fuller) around 70s West Germany. Co-stars include a very obviously placed Zappa 200 Motels posters. Objectively, it's not a good movie, but it is a weird one (MST3K would never have the guts).

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 1 May 2023 08:43 (one year ago) link


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