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http://www.salon.com/2012/09/23/study_marijuana_prevents_spread_of_cancer/

Mordy, Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

was surprised to find out "california pacific medical center" is actually a legit institution, it sounds like a dispensary

the late great, Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

lol

tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Sunday, 23 September 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this is kinda important:
http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/10/15/medical-marijuana-gets-its-day-in-federal-court-tomorrow/

Mordy, Monday, 15 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but the mmj restrictions in jersey are totally absurd

carne asada, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

i'd qualify tho

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

"I got called a misogynist on twitter, it's causing me anxiety"

set the controls for the arse of your mum (sic), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

lulz but srsly i don't think they're prescribing for anxiety in nj.

A physician must certify that a patient has an approved debilitating medical condition to participate in the Medicinal Marijuana Program. Approved debilitating medical conditions include:

Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis
Multiple sclerosis
Terminal cancer
Muscular dystrophy
Inflammatory bowel disease, including Crohn’s disease
Terminal illness, if the physician has determined a prognosis of less than 12 months of life.
The following conditions apply, if resistant to, or if the patient is intolerant to, conventional therapy:

Seizure disorder, including epilepsy
Intractable skeletal muscular spasticity
Glaucoma
The following conditions apply, if severe or chronic pain, severe nausea or vomiting, cachexia or wasting syndrome results from the condition or treatment thereof:

Positive status for human immunodeficiency virus
Acquired immune deficiency syndrome
Cancer

i've got one of these ^^

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

i never understood this country's "well if you're dying have all the drugs you want" hypocrisy

the late great, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

then again, i've seen pretty good anecdotal evidence that cannabis is not a particularly good long-term solution for some of the stuff it's often prescribed for in california, i.e. mental health conditions

the late great, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

i heard gary johnson this morning on NPR (from the 3rd party candidate debate last night) say that we should immediately legalize marijuana. i wonder how long it'll take before a dem or rep candidate says the same.

Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link

Libertarians have been saying that since forever though.

how's life, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

then again, i've seen pretty good anecdotal evidence that cannabis is not a particularly good long-term solution for some of the stuff it's often prescribed for in california, i.e. mental health conditions

― the late great, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:33 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^this. I don't really see how cannabis can cure or really help any of these. And if it's so bad and hated, why should people with serious illnesses be able to take it when perfectly healthy people can't? The hypocrisy of the whole thing is astounding, frankly.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

imho, legalizing medical marijuana is a gateway to full legalization - a way to get people comfortable to the idea

Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

also, re mental health conditions, i have known people who have suffered from severe anxiety that were helped through marijuana use

Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

marijuana threw my anxiety into complete overdrive, but I acknowledge it works differently for different people. I'd try it for anxiety again.

how's life, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

There is plenty of medicine prescribed for mental health that is not very good for people to take in the long term.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

I think in my case, it was not good to take in dosages of like, a dozen bowls and a few bong hits over the course of the evening. That's just how everyone I ever smoked down with liked to roll.

how's life, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

imho, legalizing medical marijuana is a gateway to full legalization - a way to get people comfortable to the idea

― Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:45 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sure, but why not just admit that it's not proven to be bad for you? Instead of saying that it is bad for you unless you have a serious illness?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

I agree with you - I'm just not sure it's politically feasible (or at least not as feasible as medical marijuana appears to be).

Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

the third party debate was lol because with the exception of the poor man's clint eastwood from the "constitution party" every candidate supported legalizing marijuana. there were a bunch of issues like that.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

jill stein had the I'M A DOCTOR THIS IS RIDICULOUS angle to work.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

There is plenty of medicine prescribed for mental health that is not very good for people to take in the long term.

this is also absolutely true, i have long-lasting (probably permanent) side effects from being on SSRIs for oh, about fifteen years now

the late great, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

anyone see 60minutes last week?

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 26 October 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't. good?

Mordy, Friday, 26 October 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

The segment is streaming online: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50133577n

Worth checking out...

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 26 October 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah nothing groundbreaking, but just rad to see 60minutes devoting time to it

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Saturday, 27 October 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link

cool segment, also economic revitalization information made me feel very optimistic. if states begin to draw lots of revenue from this i think that will expedite more comprehensive legalization

Mordy, Saturday, 27 October 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

Filled in one vote-by-mail oval today to legalize weed in WA state and another to legalize gay marriage. Doesn't mean they'll pass (though both are polling ahead for now), but still, I never thought I'd actually see either up for a vote, much less on the same ballot.

joygoat, Saturday, 27 October 2012 06:45 (eleven years ago) link

hi colorado

wk, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link

FYI: http://the420times.com/2012/11/track-the-6-marijuana-ballot-measures-live/

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:04 (eleven years ago) link

this is insane. NH medical legal great but colorado recreational legal is just... i guess we're heading towards a major federal situation.

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:05 (eleven years ago) link

maybe CO can take some federal heat off CA?

wk, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:06 (eleven years ago) link

WA looks like it's going to legalize too.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:07 (eleven years ago) link

Colorado for O.

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

oops, wrong thread.

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:10 (eleven years ago) link

how do they prove dui?

wk, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:13 (eleven years ago) link

weed looking v good in wa, 200k vote spread now.
gonna save those state liquor stores

ou th (anky), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:14 (eleven years ago) link

how do they prove dui?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RmxW4GJ1GA

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link

wa dui w/this, the way its written, is probably unenforceable

ou th (anky), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link

my CA pride is hurt a little by the fact that we didn't get there first, but reading the text of the CO law, legalization of under an ounce doesn't seem meaningfully from decriminalization of an ounce. cultivation and sales are maybe kind of a big deal, but maybe kind of not? compared to the medical situation, what's the diff? I don't know.

wk, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:21 (eleven years ago) link

meaningfully different

wk, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:22 (eleven years ago) link

i am proud of CO!!

homosexual II, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:32 (eleven years ago) link

as a Denver resident, weed was/is pretty "legal" here already (not really, but everyone smokes it freely and openly). I am excited about the tax revenues and the tourism and all that. Super stoked.

homosexual II, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:34 (eleven years ago) link

bring on the rasta hats.

homosexual II, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:34 (eleven years ago) link

the tourism is going to be crazy, i'm thinking ILX FAP in WEED CAPITAL OF AMERICA

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:34 (eleven years ago) link

I don't even smoke weed really fyi and I am still excited about this

homosexual II, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:35 (eleven years ago) link

and OBAMA and ELIZABETH WARREN and TAMMY
super happy

homosexual II, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:36 (eleven years ago) link


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