popularized
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
popular americans were saying ginger before south park
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
good theory
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
Has everyone forgotten what they learned from watching Gilligan's Island?
― Aimless, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
I'd never heard anyone refer to a person as "a ginger" prior to South Park.
― how's life, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
i never heard it once until the internet. i might have first seen it on ilx!
― scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
there seems to be general consensus that ginger is a newly popular term in america
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/gingers-do-have-souls
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
everybody in america saw that MIA vid
― barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sure SP started the whole dumb gingers are evil thing, but i remember being overly familiar with the term by the time that ep aired
― zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
etymonline suspiciously quiet on this subject
― zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
much like the douche revival im sure the term was kicking around but south park was def key in mainstream adoption
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
people didn't say it here. they really didn't. i meet a lot of people!
― scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
maybe i just never talk about redheaded people with all those people i meet...
― scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
it was never on t.v. here that much i know. i watch a LOT of t.v.
― scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
speak no evil
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
People have been saying douche since old times.
― how's life, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
the douche revival
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
It never died.
― how's life, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
ur wrong go stand in the corner w/zachylon
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah douche is in the constitution. we have always loved douche.
― scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
douche was for a long time a completely dated construction, you might as well have been saying get a life or gag me w/a spoon, it then experienced a meteoric revival sparked by south park and is now quickly reseeding into the ether
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
lol as a "ginger" i must say people are really stupid about redheads. i've had the dumbest shit said to me about it. back in the day it was predictable disses and now it's people you meet in bars who are just fascinated by it or mystified by it.
― omar little, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
is it true you dont have a soul tho, whats that feel like
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
have you ever seen yourself in a mirror??
― barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://books.google.com/ngrams/chart?content=douchebag&corpus=0&smoothing=3&year_start=1978&year_end=2008
huh, looks like lagoon's right!
― how's life, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
i don't remember douche ever going away or being dated! THAT word i have heard almost my whole life.
― scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
feels like a fire burning on my skull, or like a patch of carrots growing from my brain.
― omar little, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
u should do one of those ask things on reddit
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
reddit
― omar little, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
it never stops
oh... my... god
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
its all connected
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
― scott seward, Monday, September 24, 2012 12:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not saying you guys are doing this but i do think theres a funny tic w/people who consider themselves culturally clued in in that the deeply felt need to have been an early adopter of whatever trend is under discusion requires such copious backdating of personal usage records that they inevitably end up at the conclusion that things have always been that way, which is somewhat ironic as it represents less actual cultural insight than the current conventional wisdom
fail? come on people have been using fail in that way forever, in elementary school we used to yell fail at each other when we fell down in the school yard, and anyway the word fail i mean thats not new right come on pfft
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
fail i only know from the internet.
― scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
but i'm old.
but for real people have been calling each other douchebag forever. howard stern kept it alive for future generations almost singlehandedly.
― scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
i mean i can only go by personal experience. i've NEVER heard anyone call someone ginger in real life. i've been hearing douchbag since grade school. or just plain douche.
― scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
I only learned about "ginger" with the Spice Girls invasion
― cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
douche had a huge recent resurgence in popularity, it ime became more popular than it had ever been, it was also more douche focused rather than the previously dominant douchebag
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
i remember being 13 when "pwn" started and thinking that the final fantasy message board i posted on started it
― zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
but ginger still predates south park, you can't convince me otherwise
― zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
you cant seem to use the usual search modifiers on google trends so obvs it hard to tease out stuff thats abt ginger the food or the name or w/e but heres a search for ginger hair in the usa
http://i.imgur.com/YzxFw.png
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
that episode aired in 05 tho?
― zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
It originally aired on November 9, 2005. The episode caused controversy after its ironic premise was misunderstood by people who acted violently against redheads. [2]
― zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
...and that's that little blip in the third quarter.
― how's life, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
its a long path to mainstream acceptance, and like i said thats a search for 'ginger hair' which is obvs a different formulation than just calling someone a ginger
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
future linguists will no doubt call the period between 05-10 the a ginger/red hair era
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWCi7Xg7UeQ
― kinder, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
blah blah blah GINGER blah blah blah blah GINGER blah
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 24 September 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link