why do i hate that artist thing that people keep posting on my facebook so much? why am i such a jerk?

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lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

popular americans were saying ginger before south park

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

good theory

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

Has everyone forgotten what they learned from watching Gilligan's Island?

Aimless, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

I'd never heard anyone refer to a person as "a ginger" prior to South Park.

how's life, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

i never heard it once until the internet. i might have first seen it on ilx!

scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

there seems to be general consensus that ginger is a newly popular term in america

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/gingers-do-have-souls

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

everybody in america saw that MIA vid

barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

i'm sure SP started the whole dumb gingers are evil thing, but i remember being overly familiar with the term by the time that ep aired

zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

etymonline suspiciously quiet on this subject

zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

much like the douche revival im sure the term was kicking around but south park was def key in mainstream adoption

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

people didn't say it here. they really didn't. i meet a lot of people!

scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

maybe i just never talk about redheaded people with all those people i meet...

scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

it was never on t.v. here that much i know. i watch a LOT of t.v.

scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

speak no evil

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

People have been saying douche since old times.

how's life, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

the douche revival

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

It never died.

how's life, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

ur wrong go stand in the corner w/zachylon

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah douche is in the constitution. we have always loved douche.

scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

douche was for a long time a completely dated construction, you might as well have been saying get a life or gag me w/a spoon, it then experienced a meteoric revival sparked by south park and is now quickly reseeding into the ether

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

lol as a "ginger" i must say people are really stupid about redheads. i've had the dumbest shit said to me about it. back in the day it was predictable disses and now it's people you meet in bars who are just fascinated by it or mystified by it.

omar little, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

is it true you dont have a soul tho, whats that feel like

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

have you ever seen yourself in a mirror??

barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

http://books.google.com/ngrams/chart?content=douchebag&corpus=0&smoothing=3&year_start=1978&year_end=2008

huh, looks like lagoon's right!

how's life, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

i don't remember douche ever going away or being dated! THAT word i have heard almost my whole life.

scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

feels like a fire burning on my skull, or like a patch of carrots growing from my brain.

omar little, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

u should do one of those ask things on reddit

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

reddit

omar little, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

it never stops

omar little, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

oh... my... god

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

its all connected

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

i don't remember douche ever going away or being dated! THAT word i have heard almost my whole life.

― scott seward, Monday, September 24, 2012 12:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not saying you guys are doing this but i do think theres a funny tic w/people who consider themselves culturally clued in in that the deeply felt need to have been an early adopter of whatever trend is under discusion requires such copious backdating of personal usage records that they inevitably end up at the conclusion that things have always been that way, which is somewhat ironic as it represents less actual cultural insight than the current conventional wisdom

fail? come on people have been using fail in that way forever, in elementary school we used to yell fail at each other when we fell down in the school yard, and anyway the word fail i mean thats not new right come on pfft

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

fail i only know from the internet.

scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

but i'm old.

scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

but for real people have been calling each other douchebag forever. howard stern kept it alive for future generations almost singlehandedly.

scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

i mean i can only go by personal experience. i've NEVER heard anyone call someone ginger in real life. i've been hearing douchbag since grade school. or just plain douche.

scott seward, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

I only learned about "ginger" with the Spice Girls invasion

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

douche had a huge recent resurgence in popularity, it ime became more popular than it had ever been, it was also more douche focused rather than the previously dominant douchebag

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

i remember being 13 when "pwn" started and thinking that the final fantasy message board i posted on started it

zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

but ginger still predates south park, you can't convince me otherwise

zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

you cant seem to use the usual search modifiers on google trends so obvs it hard to tease out stuff thats abt ginger the food or the name or w/e but heres a search for ginger hair in the usa

http://i.imgur.com/YzxFw.png

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

that episode aired in 05 tho?

zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

It originally aired on November 9, 2005. The episode caused controversy after its ironic premise was misunderstood by people who acted violently against redheads. [2]

zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

...and that's that little blip in the third quarter.

how's life, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

its a long path to mainstream acceptance, and like i said thats a search for 'ginger hair' which is obvs a different formulation than just calling someone a ginger

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

future linguists will no doubt call the period between 05-10 the a ginger/red hair era

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWCi7Xg7UeQ

kinder, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

blah blah blah GINGER blah blah blah blah GINGER blah

Doctor Casino, Monday, 24 September 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link


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