Dub / Reggae: An Idiot's Guide

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the 'chilled out' part of the title doesnt make me want to run to amazon lol.

uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, the packaging and marketing of these Sessions comps are extremely embarrassing, but they are mostly great comps. Dub Sessions is good.

A quick sprint to Amazon shows a copy selling used for $11.

Considering these were going $10-12US *new*, that's still crazy (although not as crazy as 14 pounds used on amazon UK)

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

just wanted to say thanks for the ernie b's tip upthread, i got a bunch of cool stuff as a christmas present for my wife. really cheap too, it was something like 6 discs for $22 and one of those discs was $11 on its own (the radiodread - ok computer dub thing)

6335, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

lol how is that radiodread

i should disclaimer my comment about the sessions comps by saying that this comp.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518VXW4FTTL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

is really good despite awful cover, awful title and that its label is Music Club

eman, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Ernie B's is god.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

eman, i was about to post about the Chill Out comment above and mention that same compilation which is fantastic straight through. highly recommended.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

not all of the radiodread works for me, but the version of'airbag' is pretty rad

6335, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Seeing this thread pop back up on New Answers inspired me to listen to Tougher Than Tough again. Pretty amazing stuff. If I tell you guys what tracks I really love, can you give further listening tips?

Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i haven't listened to it thoroughly, but the Radiodread thing is very well put together.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

"If I tell you guys what tracks I really love, can you give further listening tips?"

Unless you want mento recommendations, probably (hell someone here can most likely even provide those, just not me.)

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Has anyone heard Cornell Cambell's disc, The Gorgon? It just appeared on eMusic. I can't find more than a single review of it anywhere (tho there's been a lot written about the title track and I Shall Not Remove, both of which were on the Blood & Fire Cornell Campbell compilation). Anyway, all the samples sound intriguing.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 15 March 2009 01:42 (fifteen years ago) link

According to the entry at Roots Archives it was produced in 76 by Bunny Lee and mixed by King Tubby. I'd get it based on that. Haven't heard this full album but his other albums during this era are split ~50/50 on lovers tunes and rasta lyrics/rockers style.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 15 March 2009 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i've heard a few of those tracks on comps, i'm sure its decent. pretty much any of these are going to be good

1973

* Cornell Campbell

1975

* Dance In A Greenwich Farm
* Natty Dread In A Greenwich Farm

1976

* Stalowatt
* The Gorgon

eman, Sunday, 15 March 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Calling all dub experts!!!

What is the dub that appears at 15:40 into Don Letts' The Punk Rock Movie? The movie is here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4101813390428941237#

You can skip to 11:35 underneath the image. That "eeeefah eeeefah eeeefah eeeefah" has been haunting me for decades.

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 4 April 2010 08:58 (fourteen years ago) link

15.40 is Joe Gibbs and the Professionals -Jubilation Dub - from African Dub Almighty Chapter 3 & 4

Bob Six, Sunday, 4 April 2010 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Bob Six, thank you FOREVER!!!! xoxoxoxoox

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 4 April 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

in response to the original question - ok you know bob marley, but do you have his original albums or just that damn legend compilation? don't get me wrong, it's a good comp - almost *too* good, leading to it being played to death - but not everyone actually goes out and buys his albums, which are generally pretty awesome (concrete jungle leaps to mind for instance) and full of tracks you've probably never heard before...

seconding the congos, augustus pablo , king tubby and jimmy cliff, i'm gonna hunt down the rest on jess' list myself.

messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 08:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Having never heard him before, somehow, I'm blown away by Cedric IM Brooks & Light of Saba right now.

drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 09:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Awesome awesome stuff on this label:

http://digikillerrecords.blogspot.com/

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

never heard of these labels; digging the soundscans. thanks, alex.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 6 April 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

New Jonny5 mix:

The Upsetter – Foundation Dub
Baba Brooks – Distant Drums
Augustus Pablo – Vibrate On
Keith Hudson – Jean You Change Everything
Keith Hudson – Jonah Version
The Techniques – Traveling Man
Winston Sax – Victory At Adawa
U-Roy & Ken Parker – True True True Version
Count Ossie & The Wareikas – One Bright Morning
Winston Wright & The Supersonics – Black Power
Dennis Alcapone – Funky Tang
Nora Dean – Angie La La
Bob Marley – Keep On Skanking
U-Roy – Tom Drunk
Phyllis Dillon – Woman Of The Ghetto
Johnny Moore – Red Is Danger
Keith Hudson & The Mafia All Stars – Melody Maker
Chuckles – Melody Maker Version 2
Jah Woosh – I’m Alright
The Abbyssinians – Mabrak
Trinity – Psalms
Jah Woosh – Sattaland
The Upsetter – Disco Devil
The Black Notes – African Style
The Upsetters – African Dub
Little Clive – African Bread
Ken Boothe – The Train Is Coming
The Ethiopians – This Train
Johnny Moore – South China Sea
Johnny Clarke – Golden Snake
Myrna Townsend All Stars – Golden Skank
Dillinger – Flat Foot Hustling
Niney The Observer – Lotion Here I Come Again
Junior Delgado – Famine / Version
Big Youth – Honesty / Version
Freddie McGregor – Rasta Man Camp
Bob Marley – Soul Rebel / Version
Earl Flute & Keith Hudson – True True To My Heart
John Holt – Ali Baba
Toots & The Maytals – 54-46

sam500, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for the link. It's helping me get through a particularly annoying working day.

Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 07:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Recently rediscovered The Revolutionaries - Earthquake Dub. For some reason this doesn't particularly wow me when I first heard it 4 years ago, but I've completely fallen in love with it.

Bob Six, Saturday, 17 April 2010 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ2lOBMrcGw

loving this

bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

has that 1981 Junjo/Radics/Scientist vibe.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

wah-wah voicebox flown in from Sly & the Family Stone or something

bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

just got:

The Boris Gardiner Experience "Sledgehammer" (1975)
Joe Gibbs "Majestic Dub" (1979)<----this is amazing

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

er Boris Gardiner HAPPENING I mean

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

A few more roots classics: The Wailing Souls 'Wild Suspense'

Yeah, this is a v. good album

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 10:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Gibbs dub albums from the late 70s are really incredible (even though I guess they are Gibbs in name only or something and other people mixed them, but whatevs.)

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah am thinking I want the rest of the series now

at the store I had to choose between Majestic Dub and Linval Thompson Meets King Tubby's "Ina Reggae Dub Style" "Dis A Yard Dub"

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I've not heard that particular Linval/Tubby record, but it's hard to imagine that record being bad (although it is on Clocktower which is pretty hit or miss as reggae labels go.)

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

the Boris Gariner is pretty good too, altho the last track on side 1 of the copy I got is fucked up due to a poor pressing. Gardiner's an odd one, looks like he also did some straight up disco and funk cuts too...?

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I mostly think of Gardiner as a bassist, but yeah he was kind of all over the place.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Do you have the Linval 'Negrea Love Dub' album? Essential, imo.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

only Linval stuff I have is on comps. yes I know I need to rectify this.

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Start with Rocking Vibration and Negrea Love Dub.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks for recommending "Majestic Dub". Think this might be my favourite dub album since "Super Ape". "Edward the Eight" is particularly stellar.

Evil Eau (dog latin), Monday, 18 April 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah the synths on it are kind of bonkers, right? I put it on yesterday and my wife thought the first song was Moroder for a second

All this information makes America phat (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 18 April 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

For such a minimal sound as dub, it's incredibly complex - constantly shifting and changing with loads of synths and other instruments fading in and out, but never sounding messy.

Evil Eau (dog latin), Monday, 18 April 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Being me, I was also intrigued by Bionic Dub, which is essentially a disco track. Did he do much disco stuff?

Evil Eau (dog latin), Monday, 18 April 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Gibbs? not that I know of, but I'll defer to others on that point

All this information makes America phat (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 18 April 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah there's some disco-y stuff on the Joe Gibbs Reggae Discomix 12" series

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 18 April 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm listening to a lovely Gibbs production of 'I want your love'. Things like this are what I live for, basically.

Evil Eau (dog latin), Monday, 18 April 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvumrVgjlTw

Just such a good tune

Evil Eau (dog latin), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

picked this up over the weekend. it is awesome.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gLqj3VhA77M/S9MFSwv16KI/AAAAAAAAEmk/h1Ro4siIRg8/s400/Cool+Down+Your+Temper.jpg

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 January 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

Is that the correct spelling, never seen it that way before. Just yesterday I got his Greensleeves "12" Rulers" comp in the mail. Also awesome, though so far the pick of that litter (I ordered like 6 cds) is Michael Prophet's Gunman album. Don't have the cd in front of me but I'm assuming Scientist mixed it? The bass sound on it (as in bass guitar, not bass as in frequency) is so sick.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I've never seen it spelled that way before either

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

my wife asked me what kind of name "lindval" was anyway and I had to admit I had no idea, obviously it must be some colonialized Jamaican name but I don't think I've ever heard of any non-Jamaicans named Lindval. Is it British?

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link


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