Oh, Jon, I revise what I wrote earlier: when going for a raise, bring the baby and a gun, too. You'll be set.
― canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.askamanager.org/2012/06/how-to-ask-for-a-raise.html
Good luck!
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 03:48 (eleven years ago) link
i find it funny for some reason that jeff has a favorite hat store. a *favorite* one.
― (*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
good luck jvc.
ask a manager and mean hr lady are good blogs to subscribe to, imo. they are usually fun to read and they have good ideas to sock away and think about.
― (*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 04:47 (eleven years ago) link
I say it is my favorite hat store, because it really is my only hat store. So favorite by default.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link
I can't cope with Evil HR Lady because of her gross underlying ideology, cf. the time she argued that there's no pay gap and even if there were, it was because women don't try hard enough to make more money.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link
Are these blogs about office life?
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link
No, human resources/management practices/applied employment law. Informational as opposed to personal.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks guys! I actually read that ask a manager one last night, was a good help.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
Never mind. Few things worse than agonizing and concentrating on this for a week only to have your performance review canceled literally 3 minutes before its supposed to start.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
how frustrating. :(
― JuliaA, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
Eh, it happens. I'm just frustrated because who knows when it will be rescheduled. I was told it wouldn't be this week, I'm traveling to job sites in Cali next week, one partner is traveling the following week, and the other partner is on vaction for the two weeks following that. Annoying.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
Gah! Definitely frustrating, even if it is a thing that happens.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
So this seems to be pretty common in architecture firms, based on my past experiences and talking to other people, but is that common in other industries? That employee reviews are definitely a "oh, when we get around to it" thing, rather than something that is actually treated as somewhat important?
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
That seems like the norm in a lot of industries.
― (*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
Just curious, my wife's past couple of jobs have taken them really seriously so I wondered where the norm fell between the two.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
I always thought performance reviews were for right after one has done something wrong so mgmt has anti-raise ammo.
― The Jesus and Mary Lizard (WmC), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
mine got postponed this year but it was more because my boss was new and didn't originally follow the protocol for setting it up
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
Ugh, I'd forgotten about that. TBH, I haven't read either blog in a while b/c I haven't even peeked at my Reader feed in months. I tried really hard as a thought experiment to see it in the most positive light, but she was so clearly saying what you, carl, said above.
Of course! I subscribe to some paralegals' blogs, and every profession has its bloggers.
― (*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
employee reviews are definitely a "oh, when we get around to it" thing
This is the case at my job. Haven't had one in my current position (which I've been in for 2.5 yrs).
― Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
for me it's always "you provide the proof of your work in this neverending series of forms and maybe we'll talk to you about it 8-infinity months later"
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
also guys
NEW SOUND INSTALLATION at the fern roomit's really cool solo clarinet stuff from michael thieke
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
Okay, guess I should be happy to even be getting sort of annual reviews!
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
We have rigid schedule for performance management every year. It's nice.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
The only place I've worked that was serious/strict about performance reviews was Food Lion*. If they hadn't completed an employee's review by the day of the deadline, they would pull them off of a cash register during a rush if they had to to complete the review.
I remember at one of my reviews my manager verbally lavished me with praise, with plenty of specific examples. Then she pulled out the paper review form and said, "....but, there is no money for the raise you deserve, and corporate uses reviews to determine raises, so I had to give you 3's and 4's instead of all 5's." She added, "Soz! LOL!" and I got a $.10/hr raise.
― (*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
* I think now it was because they were fending off union organization, so they tried to mimic stuff organization would bring, like regular evaluations and recognition of merit.
― (*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
performance, I mean, not merit.
― (*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
In case anyone's interested a couple of bands fronted by MI friends of mine are playing next Tuesday at the Burlington.
https://www.facebook.com/events/231569646965451/
― DX Dx DX (dan m), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
I had one performance eval in my five years w/ the state. I filled it out and my boss signed it without reading it.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
Ww, Hopleaf's delicious for lunch.
― canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
OTM: http://slightlyinsultingchicagoposters.tumblr.com/post/32226728228
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
'specially "Big 10 Bar View," which is the subsection of Lakeview where we currently live. *sigh*
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
I'm going to get a BB gun and start shooting holes into people's giant plastic college logo beer mugs.
I bought a sweatshirt from Michigan Tech recently, the first piece of apparel from my alma mater I've owned, and happened to be wearing it through Lakeview on a chilly day last week. Even though they are far from a Big 10 school, have a D2 football program and pretty much all the students are complete nerds, I still felt slightly bro-tastic walking around.
― DX Dx DX (dan m), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
Haha, pretty OTM, sadly. I would much rather live RP, Uptown, or Edgewater b/c they feel so much homier, but the commute is just too good to leave. Not that I don't love where I live b/c it's crazy convenient to everything and there is tons of street life, but it's a bit homogenous w/ mostly young whites, cut with a just a dash of familiar panhandlers and derelicts of color.
― (*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
After the thing re Prince yesterday, I was thinking about the gaps in my knowledge of music and I remembered this
Things I learned today:
- Donna Summer is dead (though I didn't know that she wasn't dead before)- Donna Summer was African-American. I realized that I have always conflated her with Suzanne Somers!
― Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, May 18, 2012 5:11 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Jesse you are starting to serve Tuomasian realness all up in here.
― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, May 18, 2012 5:37 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark
― (*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
Man you guys make me feel shitty for having gone to a Big 10 school. :( I don't go to brodowns at the Illinois bars though.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link
A few weekends ago I went to an Ohio State bar during the game. It was an amazing experience. I'll never be the same.
― Jeff, Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link
I went to the Northwestern-Ohio State game the year NW beat the Buckeyes. That was an experience, since even in Evanston the crowd was 92% Buckeye fans. Walking back to the El surrounded by throngs of silent, dejected Ohio State fans was definitely a life highlight.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
There's nothing wrong with having gone to a Big 10 school! One of my dearest friends (known on ILX as Lesbian) is one of those cup toting, Michigan sweatshirt wearing, "GO BLUE" shouting ding dongs. I have a lot of biases in this situation: 1) I HATE college football. I give most major revenue generating college sports the side eye, actually, but I particularly hate college football and the Jock Culture of Supreme Entitlement and the privileging of football above all other things; 2) I hate roving bands of drunken jockbros in my neighborhood with their slurred street harassment and puking and shouting; and 3) I find that type of blind loyalty to schools really puzzling and, when taken to certain extremes, totally gross. I understand having had a good time in college or having had valuable and important experiences (I had those!) and thinking fondly of an alma mater as a result but, and I'm about to go full Tuomas/former-jaymc here, I do not understand being that emotionally beholden to a place where you spent four (to I guess, what 12 or so if you were slow and got a PhD from the same school?) years, which I hope will be a mere fraction of a long and interesting life where you have lots of other positive, valuable, and important experiences.
But it's certainly not the Big 10 part that bugs me.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
I get where you are coming from, totally. I enjoy watching Illinois football games now and then, but I'm certainly not one to get really warpped up emotionally in it. As far as the loyalty thing goes, for me it goes deeper than just where I went to college. My grandfather went to Illinois and had some really great experiences there, so I spent a lot of years growing up hearing about it and seeing pictures, his old yearbooks, etc etc. There was a bit of mythology there for growing up. So when I got accepted to architecture school, he was so thrilled because I was the first grankid to go to his alma mater. Anyway, we had plans for him to come visit me down there, but his wife got sick and passed away, then he shortly got really ill with Lou Gehrig's disease and passed away like 8 months later. So the thing I feel for Illinois isn't centered around "rah rah go sports team!" but around a bond with my grandfather and, yeah, my own personal life development that happened during that time of my life. I guess while I don't understand blind loyalty to a football team myself, I can see the appeal for others.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
i was thinking last night how weird it is that we pay so much money to attend college, then it's considered ok for them to come to you after graduation and ask you for more money, for which they will give you nothing. just an odd social reality. i have happy memories of college but i am never ever giving them any more money for anything, no matter how rich i become.
since i went to a relatively small school for undergrad, i enjoy the fact that my masters is from illinois. makes me feel like i also went to a big school even though i spent a total of maybe three weeks on campus.
i like football and will watch college football if it's on and i'm not doing anything but i don't have any loyalties or even any perception of who's good and who sucks. i'd rather watch pro football.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
i'm a little worried about this white sox game i'm going to tonight. they've lost 7 of their last 8, including 2 of 3 to the indians, who suck, and tonight they're playing the rays, who are a good team and are on a winning streak.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
When any of my alma maters call for money, I say N.O.P.E. (Not One Penny Ever - initialism courtesy of Lesbian)
― carl agatha, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
I have given money to my alma mater but earmarked it for the radio station.
― DX Dx DX (dan m), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
Law school asking for money really rankles me since I'll be paying off my loans well past retirement, assuming I am ever able to retire thanks to my law school loans.
xp that makes sense, Dan. I supported my undergrad's radio station with $ every year that I lived within hearing range of it.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
ok yes maybe i would give money to the radio station
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
My favorite call for $$ from my alma mater was the time they called me on Saturday morning, about 6 or 7 months after graduating, on the day my first student loan payment was due. I was like "looooool, fuck no". I did not say that, but was thinking it.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't even think of radio station support since I donated via pledge drives rather than the normal alumni solicitation channels. I loved that radio station. I learned about so much good music from them.
There was a Saturday afternoon show called Hip City that played all 60s soul and I used to record the entire show on cassette bc it was so unerringly good.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
Oh shit Hip City still airs! :D
― carl agatha, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link