Or trained to use a broadsword.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 30 September 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
Ya exactly, that piece might have made sense if everything she accused her of wasn't so damn vague. Particularly the "and even worse, she starts the video version of the song with some singing that vaguely reminds me of something middle eastern!" part
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 30 September 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
Yes! The intro really doesn't sound like anything in particular, she's just wordlessly humming into a mic.
Even if you want to say that she's stealing from Japanese culture in the video, it's hard to ignore that anime cosplay is a pretty well established thing in North America.
― Moodles, Sunday, 30 September 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
every post itt in the last 24 hours is great u are all otm
disclaimer i am going to link to an entirely unrelated article rn but i think that the critique of a partic strain of feminist discourse here (http://jacobinmag.com/2012/08/fairer-sex/) applies to all this hair-splitting over cultural appropriation hipster racism, too
― flopson, Sunday, 30 September 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
great article, thanks
― Chris S, Sunday, 30 September 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
it's a great mag i cannot recommend it highly enough
― flopson, Sunday, 30 September 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
been waiting for someone to call out all the rich white people uselessly gnawing at their own tails (to the utter indifference of actual working class people, who couldn't care less about the arbitrarily shifting boundaries of this narcissistic 'I went to college discourse') for a while. def going to follow that mag.
― Chris S, Sunday, 30 September 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
all this hair-splitting over cultural appropriation hipster racism
The Shep article struck me as being a bit like academic seminars that I used to go to when doing critical theory post-grad, where one academic gave a paper and then all the other academics lined up to push their wheelbarrow and identify something the first academic had missed or glossed over.
These critiques were justifiable - as in, relevant, cogent, useful - maybe 40% of the time, which probably isn't that bad a batting average really, but the whole approach struck me as vulnerable to becoming small-minded, a process of peer-review less concerned with helping the original speaker improve their thought, but more to highlight or underscore a perceived shortcoming vis a vis the second speaker.
I was always more interested in people asking questions which drew out a point that the original speaker had made, that tried to get within the headspace of the paper - this was the real benefit (and presumably the official purpose) of the whole set-up, but it characterised a depressing minority of the actual interactions.
The reason I raise this is that it strikes me that as the distance b/w the (esp. indie-associated) artists and the people who discuss them (whether fans, critics, or the many people who hover b/w those rules) diminishes, the more a lot of the discourse starts to resemble that kind of peer review process. A video clip, a HBO TV show and a blog all exist as cultural products placing their creators on a level playing field of critical interrogation vis a vis one another. As with peer review seminars, I see the benefit of this, but it does seem to encourage a lot of self-satisfied oneup(wo)manship as well.
― Tim F, Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
Come to think of it, Bo Diddley never went to Africa either.
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Monday, 1 October 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
I wish I could unsee those vulva rings.
― Shh. Don't tell anyone I'm ~famous. It'll be our little secret. (Turangalila), Monday, 1 October 2012 04:45 (eleven years ago) link
if the video weren't problematic how would we know we're alive
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Monday, 1 October 2012 06:27 (eleven years ago) link
Tim F that's a great post
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Monday, October 1, 2012 12:27 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
it looks like the Target deluxe edition contains "...All," "Gravity" and
and
::shudder::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdiL01PRtWI
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
lol fuck wrong thread sorry
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
glad to know you're keeping tabs on grimes tho
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
Miguel> Grimes
― curmudgeon, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
the threads were right next to each other on ilm new answers! i have no idea what a grimes is
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
A. Grimes
http://agrimes.bandcamp.com/track/m-i-l-f
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
That's how you get the first listing in the Grimes section of the yellow pages
― The Most Typical and Popular Girl Rider (Crabbits), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081126080205/simpsons/images/4/42/Tombgshci.jpg
― dsb, Monday, 1 October 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
sorry huge, someone below the fold probably made that reference allready anyway
― dsb, Monday, 1 October 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
tim it is pretty baffling to me that you did postgraduate studies in crit theory since you are like, the clearest writer ever
― flopson, Monday, 1 October 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
Law was a pretty good counterweight - my problem in that dept is that I'm still too elliptical and roundabout at times.
― Tim F, Monday, 1 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.startribune.com/local/west/49134952.html?page=all&refer=y
― flopson, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
I love this portrait of Claire Boucher. Sriracha on iPad:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mej3ou7NuT1qzcdbeo1_500.jpg
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
I guess it's a good thing for music fans that they couldn't get that engine working. xp
― o. nate, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
http://deadgirlfriends.tumblr.com/post/39420019737/how-do-you-feel-about-trolls
― markers, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
I saw this album on a lot of year-end lists and I took a flyer on Amazon. I'm glad that I did. It reminds me of Austra, who I also adore, in that is seems perfectly accessible to me. I cannot wait to play this for the wife.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
TMI
― zero dark (s1ocki), Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
Okay somebody explain the Tumblr post/Pitchfork repost kerfluffle today; I don't quite know what happened there.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
Although I see this now
http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
From what I understand, people were giving her shit for her year end list at some publication, which featured some fairly universally loved pop songs/artists. She wrote a tumblr post this morning going into a detailed defense of it. Other blogs and eventually Pitchfork picked up on it. She said her tumblr isn't any kind of offical statement or news source, and then promptly deleted everything she'd ever posted on there.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
whether or not an artist's blog post is legitimate news from a news org's perspective is one question... i don't really agree with grimes tho
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
lol tumblr
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Weird, I was reading that Tumblr post 30 minutes or so. Seemed relatively uncontroversial stuff, but then young ppl I guess.
― eskimo table (seandalai), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
gotta lock up yr diaryland, grimes
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
xp j0rdan u don't agree that listening to pop music is ok?
― flopson, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
lol, not that part
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
<3 grimes
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
man that's really sad. i just read the pitchfork thing, she is smart & says good stuff.
― schlump, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
yeah
― flopson, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
Biggups Grimes! I don't care much for your music but you sure know yr onions.
― dog latin, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ sticker quote
― zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
Attacking her for these opinions is bullshit
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
leave britney alone
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
I don't care much for your music but you sure know yr onions.
yes
― ron paulstretch (crüt), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
& I don't care much for the music she's defending but I "get it" and am glad it exists
I like that she sees her creative process as swinging between making Dune albums and LOTR albums
― Moodles, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
didn't grimes recently say she'll be posting to her tumblr a lot more often for the fans? seems a little strange to go from that to deleting every post you've made
― ☕ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link