Saturday Night Live

also can we talk for a second about how Cheri Oteri is an unsung genius?

will always love ferrell for continuing to do harry caray even after caray died. also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajv_8XG9TSQ

i don't know if i'd go that far but i do wonder why she totally disappeared after SNL. i guess that happens to pretty much every female castmember unfortunately.
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other than fey and poehler

maybe maya rudolph and jane curtin. still, not a great track record for the women of SNL.

i just remembered that horatio sanz existed

Jim Carrey never found a problem he couldn't mug his way out of, up to and including "other people having lines to say"

i just remembered that horatio sanz existed

Ha, have you seen him lately?

http://tv.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/horatio-sanz-100-weight-loss.jpg

julia louis dreyfus most successful post snl career for a woman

I feel like the Fey-Poehler-Dratch-Rudolph-Shannon-Gasteyer-Wiig generation as a whole has been shockingly successful/in the public eye post-SNL compared to previous generations of female cast members (I think Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Jane Curtin were the biggest successes prior, followed by Sarah Silverman, Janeane Garofalo, Laurie Metcalfe and Joan Cusack)

When was Laurie Metcalf on SNL?

and ana gasteyer is doing well on suburgatory. but yeah wiig definitely breaking new ground. radner saddest case of hollywood and tv having no idea what to do w/ someone after snl.

Laurie Metcalfe was on SNL in 1981

For one episode!

it was a career-changing moment

Michaela Watkins has been showing up here and there...the movie Wanderlust and the first episode of this season's Key and Peele (which I think is hilarious).

i loved cheri oteri's pilled-up retiree character

to this day I drive ppl around me crazy by shouting "SIMMA DOWN NAH!" at them

michaela watkins and casey wilson exits (too old, too fat) maybe most sexist snl moment, way more than janeane garofalo rolling her eyes at frat boys or andrew dice clay hosting

that late '90s cast was definitely the loudest in SNL history -- some of them had moments of brilliance but ferrell and oteri and shannon and breuer and kattan were basically constantly yelling annoyingly

they weren't really any younger or slimmer when they got hired, though
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Molly Shannon seems out of place on that list (xp the wiig generation list) - her last season was 2001, all of the others except Gasteyer started 2000 at latest.

Also her latest film is Scary Movie 5, so.

well based on how time works she was younger
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When you start imagining these female assistants to Lorne Michaels, laying around making popcorn and filling up his wine glass, it's surprising that the bad boy network still isn't in play.

Molly Shannon keeps popping up as a guest star on American TV shows that I watch

although tbh nothing made me happier than seeing Nora Dunn pop up on Apt 23

also can we talk for a second about how Cheri Oteri is an unsung genius?

I was surprised, rewatching that '95-'96 season when she & Ferrell, et al. first started, to realize how much I liked her compared to my memory of watching her.

I still lament Gail Matthius's post-SNL obscurity.

xp It always makes me happy to Nora Dunn and Jan Hooks pop up unexpectedly in current television shows. Victoria Jackson less so (though that doesn't really happen so much).

that late '90s cast was definitely the loudest in SNL history -- some of them had moments of brilliance but ferrell and oteri and shannon and breuer and kattan were basically constantly yelling annoyingly

― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:16 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark

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Who IS the most unsung SNL castmember ever? Or at least in the post-70s era? I'd say Chris Parnell is way up there (not just for his post-SNL life, but he was fantastically funny while he was on the show).

pat stevens ftw

unsung i'm gonna go w/ jan hooks maybe. parnell's a good candidate esp considering he was fired from the show twice, barely on the show period, and yet i can think of as many moments i liked w/ him on the show as a lot of ppl. biggest missed opportunity by the show could be chris rock but really i think that's more his talent not being a good match for a sketch show, it's not like he was great on in living color. ben stiller otoh really is the type of talent that should've flourished on snl though maybe he was too green.

didn't he leave choose to leave? dennis miller's bit on ben's fox show was that he split after learning there was no I in team.

tim meadows wasn't really a star but a good steady eddie kinda cast member, i tend to like those types...parnell being another...sudekis is sort of like that but he turned into a sort-of star because he's a little hunkier i guess

jan hooks rules

Defintely.

i used to like sudekis but he's getting on my nerves lately.

well he was only featured (i remember him and mike myers were the first additions to that carvey-hartman cast), and i can recall he definitely felt frustrated, wanted to do a sketch making fun of u2 (like he would end up doing on his own show) but michaels thought bono was too obscure a reference. in 1989. there was a gap of a few years between snl and ben stiller show also so it's not exactly like jim breur doing the jim breur show w/ goatboy and joe pesci and then getting shitcanned cuz adam mckay hated him and lorne michaels had only put him on the show in the first place cuz nbc brass insisted. at the same time stiller is definitely an egomaniac control freak so i can see him chafing at snl and going on his own, esp since he'd been filming sketches on his own before snl.

Sudeikis did a lot of his best work with Will Forte and Kristen Wiig who are both gone now. He's kind of lost now (though as long as he does a few more Romney bits and a couple appearances on "What Up With That?" I'll be happy).

other than romney and biden i really prefer sudeikis when he's not the focus. and i don't mean that in 'the less sudeikis the better', just that very frequently he can make a good sketch great or a bad sketch watchable, much like hartman did. he's pretty much the only thing i've ever really enjoyed about the scared straight sketches.

there was a gap of a few years between snl and ben stiller show

actually he was on snl in 89 and had his mtv show (which became the fox show) in 1990, wikipedia has him leaving because he wanted to do more short films.

ha i forgot about the mtv show precursor. man did anyone read that nyer profile? the guy's done alot of stuff i love - ben stiller show, flirting w/ disaster, heavyweights, zoolander, greenberg, always game to appear on a great show that can use the ratings boost a ben stiller appearance can provide - but god his walter mitty sounds awful, every problem i had w/ tropic thunder blown up to the nth degree. kept thinking of alan alda in crimes and misdemeanors when i read it.

http://lawyer4musicians.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/jon-bovi.jpg

this always makes me laugh, but i dunno if it would be as funny if the mustache was on sudeikis.

i learned all about ben stiller leaving snl because of his ambitions to direct from that surprisingly good ORAL HISTORY OF REALITY BITES that we talked about on some thread a few months ago

I'm not sure when the turn was, but I've gone from really liking to really hating Ben Stiller.

lol wasn't that same 'jon bovi' pic at the top of i think a da croupier thread about worst cast members?

the guy's done alot of stuff i love - ben stiller show, flirting w/ disaster, heavyweights, zoolander, greenberg, always game to appear on a great show that can use the ratings boost a ben stiller appearance can provide - but god his walter mitty sounds awful, every problem i had w/ tropic thunder blown up to the nth degree. kept thinking of alan alda in crimes and misdemeanors when i read it.

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it was not a da croup thread

has anyone ever even seen the MTV version of The Ben Stiller Show? it was a little before my time, but i watched the Fox show when it was on the air -- when the later was released on DVD a few years ago, i don't think there was even much mention of the MTV one in the commentaries or any clips in the extras or anything. i suppose there might be clips online but i haven't looked, don't know how hard it'd be to google and not get a bunch of results from the fox show.

i learned all about ben stiller leaving snl because of his ambitions to direct from that surprisingly good ORAL HISTORY OF REALITY BITES that we talked about on some thread a few months ago

― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:09 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

whoa, i gotta read that