that late '90s cast was definitely the loudest in SNL history -- some of them had moments of brilliance but ferrell and oteri and shannon and breuer and kattan were basically constantly yelling annoyingly
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:16 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark
otm
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
Who IS the most unsung SNL castmember ever? Or at least in the post-70s era? I'd say Chris Parnell is way up there (not just for his post-SNL life, but he was fantastically funny while he was on the show).
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
pat stevens ftw
― ticks up my sleeve (brownie), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
unsung i'm gonna go w/ jan hooks maybe. parnell's a good candidate esp considering he was fired from the show twice, barely on the show period, and yet i can think of as many moments i liked w/ him on the show as a lot of ppl. biggest missed opportunity by the show could be chris rock but really i think that's more his talent not being a good match for a sketch show, it's not like he was great on in living color. ben stiller otoh really is the type of talent that should've flourished on snl though maybe he was too green.
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
didn't he leave choose to leave? dennis miller's bit on ben's fox show was that he split after learning there was no I in team.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
tim meadows wasn't really a star but a good steady eddie kinda cast member, i tend to like those types...parnell being another...sudekis is sort of like that but he turned into a sort-of star because he's a little hunkier i guess
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
jan hooks rules
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
Defintely.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
i used to like sudekis but he's getting on my nerves lately.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
well he was only featured (i remember him and mike myers were the first additions to that carvey-hartman cast), and i can recall he definitely felt frustrated, wanted to do a sketch making fun of u2 (like he would end up doing on his own show) but michaels thought bono was too obscure a reference. in 1989. there was a gap of a few years between snl and ben stiller show also so it's not exactly like jim breur doing the jim breur show w/ goatboy and joe pesci and then getting shitcanned cuz adam mckay hated him and lorne michaels had only put him on the show in the first place cuz nbc brass insisted. at the same time stiller is definitely an egomaniac control freak so i can see him chafing at snl and going on his own, esp since he'd been filming sketches on his own before snl.
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
Sudeikis did a lot of his best work with Will Forte and Kristen Wiig who are both gone now. He's kind of lost now (though as long as he does a few more Romney bits and a couple appearances on "What Up With That?" I'll be happy).
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
other than romney and biden i really prefer sudeikis when he's not the focus. and i don't mean that in 'the less sudeikis the better', just that very frequently he can make a good sketch great or a bad sketch watchable, much like hartman did. he's pretty much the only thing i've ever really enjoyed about the scared straight sketches.
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
there was a gap of a few years between snl and ben stiller show
actually he was on snl in 89 and had his mtv show (which became the fox show) in 1990, wikipedia has him leaving because he wanted to do more short films.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
ha i forgot about the mtv show precursor. man did anyone read that nyer profile? the guy's done alot of stuff i love - ben stiller show, flirting w/ disaster, heavyweights, zoolander, greenberg, always game to appear on a great show that can use the ratings boost a ben stiller appearance can provide - but god his walter mitty sounds awful, every problem i had w/ tropic thunder blown up to the nth degree. kept thinking of alan alda in crimes and misdemeanors when i read it.
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
http://lawyer4musicians.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/jon-bovi.jpg
this always makes me laugh, but i dunno if it would be as funny if the mustache was on sudeikis.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
i learned all about ben stiller leaving snl because of his ambitions to direct from that surprisingly good ORAL HISTORY OF REALITY BITES that we talked about on some thread a few months ago
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not sure when the turn was, but I've gone from really liking to really hating Ben Stiller.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
lol wasn't that same 'jon bovi' pic at the top of i think a da croupier thread about worst cast members?
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
the guy's done alot of stuff i love - ben stiller show, flirting w/ disaster, heavyweights, zoolander, greenberg, always game to appear on a great show that can use the ratings boost a ben stiller appearance can provide - but god his walter mitty sounds awful, every problem i had w/ tropic thunder blown up to the nth degree. kept thinking of alan alda in crimes and misdemeanors when i read it.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
it was not a da croup thread
― da croupier, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
has anyone ever even seen the MTV version of The Ben Stiller Show? it was a little before my time, but i watched the Fox show when it was on the air -- when the later was released on DVD a few years ago, i don't think there was even much mention of the MTV one in the commentaries or any clips in the extras or anything. i suppose there might be clips online but i haven't looked, don't know how hard it'd be to google and not get a bunch of results from the fox show.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:09 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark
whoa, i gotta read that
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
Defend the Indefensible: "Reality Bites"
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link
i vaguely remember seeing (and enjoying) some of the mtv stuff as a kid. The stuff I recall was him trying to get the straight-man character to do some wacky musical business. One involved them in front of a row of synthesizers, another had them traipsing around in some "i still haven't found what i'm looking for" parody.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link
julia louis dreyfus most successful post snl career for a woman
― balls, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, but. Joan Cusack, one-season wonder, does have two Oscar nominations and I bet those two Toy Story movies made her made cash.
― a shark with a rippling six pack (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link
JLD was only on a single season too, right? Maybe two, but I don't feel like factchecking.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
She may have been on for three.
― pplains, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
She was on at least two seasons. She, Gary Kroeger, Mary Gross, and Jim Belushi were the only holdovers from the '83-'84 season to the '84-'85 "ringers" season.
(Fucking Gary Kroeger...dude was on THREE seasons?! Yeesh.)
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:13 (eleven years ago) link
re: Farrell as Caray, a friend of mine thought Harry Caray was some bizarre fictional character Ferrell had come up with. When I showed her some Cubs clips, she completely lost her shit.
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
I had no idea she was on the show for so long. I was mostly too young to watch then, but I'd see it every once in a while. I really only know her time on the show from just a few sketches I've seen.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
Oh for the days when people only had "basic cable" and everyone grew up watching WGN.
― a shark with a rippling six pack (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
Surely Tina Fey has had a better post-SNL career than J L-D.
― nickn, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
tarfumes that is awesome
― goole, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link
haha listen i love 30 Rock but Seinfeld is a heavy trump card
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
argument could definitely be made! seinfeld ridiculously more successful than 30 rock but fey obv more central to 30 rock's success. gave it to jl-d cuz i remember hearing she's the first actress to win best comedy actress emmy for 3 different shows, extent to which old christine can be called a hit is arguable and it's too soon to call veep an unqualified triumph too imo. otoh fey does have a movie career of sorts (did jl-d even attempt this? only thing i can think of is deconstructing harry. how did jason alexander and michael richards get movie vehicles but not jl-d???), big bestselling book, more 'iconic' or something. in any case wiig will be the clear winner in a few years.
― balls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
own personal ws rankings may be unintentionally swaying me here
― balls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:44 (eleven years ago) link
mean girls, bossy pants, date night and 30 rock, plus people actually know her from snl, dreyfus can settle for most successful seinfeld vet
― da croupier, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
that's larry david pretty easy
― balls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
loved the 30 Rock live episode where J L-D played Liz Lemon in flashbacks -- "Why are you better looking in your memory?" "Because my memory has Seinfeld money."
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
No other SNL cast member has a big financial firm named after her.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Dreyfuscorp.jpg
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
boooooo
― da croupier, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
OK i guess technically she's named after the firm but still.. she's probably the only one who could have Lorne Michaels killed.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
i know right (xpost)
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
now i'm wondering where larry david ranks on wealthiest snl employees
― balls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
prob top 20 but not top 10? there are quite a few gigantic movie stars on that list y'know
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
would actually love to see that list, find out whether house of blues secretly puts danny in the top 10, find out whether denny dillon has a good eye for a land deal, etc
― da croupier, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
New Adventures of Old Christine did pretty well for awhile....did Veep get renewed?
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
New Adventures is in syndication, which is usually some mark of "success"...but then again, so is According To Jim, so never mind.
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah syndication money is insane and as hobbies go curb is pretty lucrative. apparently he's worth around $800 million. for comparison tom hanks is worth around $250 million. i'm guessing lorne is wealthier than david but not will ferrell and probably not eddie murphy (i know eddie's produced alot i can't remember if any huge hits though). o and actual wealthiest is obv, again, jl-d but that's from her billionaire dad. fuck brad hall.
― balls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
i liked New Adventures more than most but it was kind of a flash in the pan, after it got an Emmy and a renewal for the first season there was a lot of excitement about her 'breaking the Seinfeld curse' and then it just quietly plodded along for a 5 season run. i guess we'll see if Veep suffers the same fate.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link