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i used to like sudekis but he's getting on my nerves lately.

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:43 (eight years ago) link

well he was only featured (i remember him and mike myers were the first additions to that carvey-hartman cast), and i can recall he definitely felt frustrated, wanted to do a sketch making fun of u2 (like he would end up doing on his own show) but michaels thought bono was too obscure a reference. in 1989. there was a gap of a few years between snl and ben stiller show also so it's not exactly like jim breur doing the jim breur show w/ goatboy and joe pesci and then getting shitcanned cuz adam mckay hated him and lorne michaels had only put him on the show in the first place cuz nbc brass insisted. at the same time stiller is definitely an egomaniac control freak so i can see him chafing at snl and going on his own, esp since he'd been filming sketches on his own before snl.

balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:44 (eight years ago) link

Sudeikis did a lot of his best work with Will Forte and Kristen Wiig who are both gone now. He's kind of lost now (though as long as he does a few more Romney bits and a couple appearances on "What Up With That?" I'll be happy).

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:45 (eight years ago) link

other than romney and biden i really prefer sudeikis when he's not the focus. and i don't mean that in 'the less sudeikis the better', just that very frequently he can make a good sketch great or a bad sketch watchable, much like hartman did. he's pretty much the only thing i've ever really enjoyed about the scared straight sketches.

balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:50 (eight years ago) link

there was a gap of a few years between snl and ben stiller show

actually he was on snl in 89 and had his mtv show (which became the fox show) in 1990, wikipedia has him leaving because he wanted to do more short films.

da croupier, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:51 (eight years ago) link

ha i forgot about the mtv show precursor. man did anyone read that nyer profile? the guy's done alot of stuff i love - ben stiller show, flirting w/ disaster, heavyweights, zoolander, greenberg, always game to appear on a great show that can use the ratings boost a ben stiller appearance can provide - but god his walter mitty sounds awful, every problem i had w/ tropic thunder blown up to the nth degree. kept thinking of alan alda in crimes and misdemeanors when i read it.

balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:01 (eight years ago) link

http://lawyer4musicians.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/jon-bovi.jpg

this always makes me laugh, but i dunno if it would be as funny if the mustache was on sudeikis.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:05 (eight years ago) link

i learned all about ben stiller leaving snl because of his ambitions to direct from that surprisingly good ORAL HISTORY OF REALITY BITES that we talked about on some thread a few months ago

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:09 (eight years ago) link

I'm not sure when the turn was, but I've gone from really liking to really hating Ben Stiller.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:11 (eight years ago) link

lol wasn't that same 'jon bovi' pic at the top of i think a da croupier thread about worst cast members?

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:12 (eight years ago) link

the guy's done alot of stuff i love - ben stiller show, flirting w/ disaster, heavyweights, zoolander, greenberg, always game to appear on a great show that can use the ratings boost a ben stiller appearance can provide - but god his walter mitty sounds awful, every problem i had w/ tropic thunder blown up to the nth degree. kept thinking of alan alda in crimes and misdemeanors when i read it.

otm

da croupier, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:17 (eight years ago) link

it was not a da croup thread

da croupier, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:18 (eight years ago) link

has anyone ever even seen the MTV version of The Ben Stiller Show? it was a little before my time, but i watched the Fox show when it was on the air -- when the later was released on DVD a few years ago, i don't think there was even much mention of the MTV one in the commentaries or any clips in the extras or anything. i suppose there might be clips online but i haven't looked, don't know how hard it'd be to google and not get a bunch of results from the fox show.

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:18 (eight years ago) link

i learned all about ben stiller leaving snl because of his ambitions to direct from that surprisingly good ORAL HISTORY OF REALITY BITES that we talked about on some thread a few months ago

― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:09 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

whoa, i gotta read that

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:19 (eight years ago) link

Defend the Indefensible: "Reality Bites"

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:24 (eight years ago) link

i vaguely remember seeing (and enjoying) some of the mtv stuff as a kid. The stuff I recall was him trying to get the straight-man character to do some wacky musical business. One involved them in front of a row of synthesizers, another had them traipsing around in some "i still haven't found what i'm looking for" parody.

da croupier, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:24 (eight years ago) link

julia louis dreyfus most successful post snl career for a woman

― balls, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, but. Joan Cusack, one-season wonder, does have two Oscar nominations and I bet those two Toy Story movies made her made cash.

a shark with a rippling six pack (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:07 (eight years ago) link

JLD was only on a single season too, right? Maybe two, but I don't feel like factchecking.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:10 (eight years ago) link

She may have been on for three.

pplains, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:12 (eight years ago) link

She was on at least two seasons. She, Gary Kroeger, Mary Gross, and Jim Belushi were the only holdovers from the '83-'84 season to the '84-'85 "ringers" season.

(Fucking Gary Kroeger...dude was on THREE seasons?! Yeesh.)

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:13 (eight years ago) link

re: Farrell as Caray, a friend of mine thought Harry Caray was some bizarre fictional character Ferrell had come up with. When I showed her some Cubs clips, she completely lost her shit.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:15 (eight years ago) link

I had no idea she was on the show for so long. I was mostly too young to watch then, but I'd see it every once in a while. I really only know her time on the show from just a few sketches I've seen.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:18 (eight years ago) link

Oh for the days when people only had "basic cable" and everyone grew up watching WGN.

a shark with a rippling six pack (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:18 (eight years ago) link

Surely Tina Fey has had a better post-SNL career than J L-D.

nickn, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:34 (eight years ago) link

tarfumes that is awesome

goole, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:37 (eight years ago) link

haha listen i love 30 Rock but Seinfeld is a heavy trump card

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:42 (eight years ago) link

argument could definitely be made! seinfeld ridiculously more successful than 30 rock but fey obv more central to 30 rock's success. gave it to jl-d cuz i remember hearing she's the first actress to win best comedy actress emmy for 3 different shows, extent to which old christine can be called a hit is arguable and it's too soon to call veep an unqualified triumph too imo. otoh fey does have a movie career of sorts (did jl-d even attempt this? only thing i can think of is deconstructing harry. how did jason alexander and michael richards get movie vehicles but not jl-d???), big bestselling book, more 'iconic' or something. in any case wiig will be the clear winner in a few years.

balls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:42 (eight years ago) link

own personal ws rankings may be unintentionally swaying me here

balls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:44 (eight years ago) link

mean girls, bossy pants, date night and 30 rock, plus people actually know her from snl, dreyfus can settle for most successful seinfeld vet

da croupier, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:45 (eight years ago) link

that's larry david pretty easy

balls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:48 (eight years ago) link

loved the 30 Rock live episode where J L-D played Liz Lemon in flashbacks -- "Why are you better looking in your memory?" "Because my memory has Seinfeld money."

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:48 (eight years ago) link

No other SNL cast member has a big financial firm named after her.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Dreyfuscorp.jpg

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:49 (eight years ago) link

that's larry david pretty easy

boooooo

da croupier, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:49 (eight years ago) link

OK i guess technically she's named after the firm but still.. she's probably the only one who could have Lorne Michaels killed.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:50 (eight years ago) link

i know right (xpost)

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:50 (eight years ago) link

now i'm wondering where larry david ranks on wealthiest snl employees

balls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:52 (eight years ago) link

prob top 20 but not top 10? there are quite a few gigantic movie stars on that list y'know

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:55 (eight years ago) link

would actually love to see that list, find out whether house of blues secretly puts danny in the top 10, find out whether denny dillon has a good eye for a land deal, etc

da croupier, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:59 (eight years ago) link

New Adventures of Old Christine did pretty well for awhile....did Veep get renewed?

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:01 (eight years ago) link

New Adventures is in syndication, which is usually some mark of "success"...but then again, so is According To Jim, so never mind.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:04 (eight years ago) link

yeah syndication money is insane and as hobbies go curb is pretty lucrative. apparently he's worth around $800 million. for comparison tom hanks is worth around $250 million. i'm guessing lorne is wealthier than david but not will ferrell and probably not eddie murphy (i know eddie's produced alot i can't remember if any huge hits though). o and actual wealthiest is obv, again, jl-d but that's from her billionaire dad. fuck brad hall.

balls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:05 (eight years ago) link

i liked New Adventures more than most but it was kind of a flash in the pan, after it got an Emmy and a renewal for the first season there was a lot of excitement about her 'breaking the Seinfeld curse' and then it just quietly plodded along for a 5 season run. i guess we'll see if Veep suffers the same fate.

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:05 (eight years ago) link

according to jim was on from fall 2001 to spring 2009. ponder that shit.

balls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:07 (eight years ago) link

when julia louis dreyfus was doing commercials for clairol i was wondering if she'd had some weird kind of amnesia where she forgot that she was wealthy.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:08 (eight years ago) link

sadly his vegas lawyer show with jerry o'connell did not get to be his old christine

da croupier, Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:09 (eight years ago) link

...did Veep get renewed?

yep

┐(´ー`)┌ (sic), Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:12 (eight years ago) link

Five year run for a sitcom is like a five year NFL career, doesn't seem impressive until you realize that like five percent of shows last that long

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:13 (eight years ago) link

David Spade is SNL's king of staying on primetime with shows nobody cares about -- 7 seasons of Just Shoot Me, 2 seasons of 8 Simple Rules, and now Rules Of Engagement going into its 7th season

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:24 (eight years ago) link

I just see Fey as more powerful in the biz than JL-D, I mean, Seinfeld doesn't seem to help Richards or Alexander, really.

Never realized New Adv lasted 5 years, seems like 2 or 3.

nickn, Thursday, 4 October 2012 02:45 (eight years ago) link

Just Shoot Me was a great show, never understood why it wasn't better regarded

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:06 (eight years ago) link


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