which is the best James Bond movie?

i guess for anyone who doesn't like bond it really is best to just start w/casino royale and the first few connery films.

well yeah, but you can say the same of any action film series

don't think this is true, Bond is kind of unique in this regard. what other action film series' are you thinking of?

essentially they're movies where nothing of consequence happens - the viewer can rest assured that no matter what, there will always be another Bond film a few years later with the same requisite villain/Bond girl/theme song/car chase/explosions etc

― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, October 8, 2012 12:51 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah well christmas and the high holy days come around every year too

halloween, new years... how does anyone have a good time??

Sorry, Space March.

Space March owns, but my favorite is still On Her Majesty's Secret Service. I like to play it when I'm in the car and pretend I am on some sort of spy caper.

Kinda with Shakey on this -- the Moore/Dalton/Brosnan Bonds all blur into 3 decades of smugness and explosions for me, with bonus dyspepsia from Dalton and flat attempts at laughs from Moore.

nicole otm

peak moores are likely 'the spy who loved me' and 'live and let die', i like the two dalton flicks a fair amount, and the brosnans peaked w/goldeneye imo. i think having a couple of ace eurobabes like famke janssen and izabella scorupco are in keeping w/bond tradition a lot better than subsequently trying to juice up bond w/halle berry, denise richards, & teri hatcher. i realize i'm not mentioning michelle yeoh or sophie marceau but they felt so out of place, idk.

yeah well christmas and the high holy days come around every year too

holidays are like movies in what way now?

frequently involve hours of uncomfortable silence surrounded by people you barely know while you crave booze

uh in the way you just described

xp well maybe that too

shoulda gone with "people you'd normally avoid"

being drunk in a movie theater sounds terrible

omar otm

uh in the way you just described

movies are not rituals

let me submit to you to consider that maybe they are sometimes

altho maybe for you guys watching Bond films are a ritual - you go through the motions in order to be comforted by their unchanging nature? I dunno.

xp

I take it you haven't seen this, SMC.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0281724/

bond movies are constructed more like a long running tv series where these regular notes the films hit become like, idk, norm walking into cheers with another joke or columbo coming back with "one more question" or rod serling's VO. it's also probably overstated how much the films rely on those series tropes, and also they've been kind of messing w/the formula a bit ever since felix leiter got half eaten by a shark.

omar otm x 2 - eurobabes are key. or just ridiculously beautiful women that haven't been over publicized by Maxim's hottest thousand list every 2 months. Berry & Richards were gorgeous at the time but eveyrone knew it so it was almost boring to have them there...whereas those lesser-known/exotic beautiful women add more intrigue or something idk

and Nicole def otm with OHMSS -- EXCITEMENT! DANGER! around every corner when it's playing

omar stop being otm

shakey otm

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yeah idg how the rules and conventions of bond films are really any different, more ritualized or restrictive than any genre conventions or dramatic conventions in general.

tbf, the titles are not particularly useful when trying to tell 23 movies over 50 years apart

dr. no, goldfinger and the man with the third nipple at least tell you who the villain is. the latter three brosnans are particularly unhelpful

particularly

pierce brosnan's delivery of the de-rigeur Bond puns was always u_u

like that whole Christmas coming once a year or w/e

lol

i think the denise richards and the second dalton are the only ones i haven't seen, though several i haven't seen in forever. thank you ted turner.

007 DAYS OF 007

syfy did a bond marathon last Thanksgiving...I wonder if they'll do it this year

I'm in the mood for a bondathon

big problem with the Brosnan ones was that there was one good film and then a quick decline into the most joyless shit imaginable

was goldeneye actually any good though? kinda suspect more a case of brosnan was good for role, they got some stuff right, we were happy to have bond back and recognizable than goldeneye was actually good. haven't seen it since it was in the theater so i could be wrong.

It has some parts where it's a slog, but Sean Bean makes for a good villain and has a decent backstory (tries for almost-as-serious as recent Bond), Famke Janssen is a ridiculous foil/female villain, and Alan Cumming's character always seems on the verge of being from a different, more comedic, film but pulls it off.

no ridiculous sciencey macguffin thing, either, just an almost-plausible ex-soviet weapon hijacked, with a decent reason given for why the plot goes to different locations

i think brosnan was just an average bond but he has probably had the most interesting post-007 career of any of the bonds.

connery had an epic career of course but brosnan's has been a little more unpredictable is what i'm saying.

yeah looking back it's pretty campy and i thought Sean Bean is kinda hammy in it but i haven't seen it for a while. has some great bits (the opening stunt obviously, the psychotic bad girl, Dench's first outing as M..) but is only 'pretty good' imo compared to the previous re-boot The Living Daylights which i still say is THE criminally under-rated Bond film.

Brosnan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p7Gk1y-boM

goldeneye was sort of right time, right place and it doesn't hold up spectacularly well, but it's still a solid bond and better than the rest of the brozzies

the rest were like "whoa weapon shit or something, he's james bond, he jumps around a lot blah blah"

the one with sophie marceau/robert carlyle had some moments, like the sadistic/erotic chair torture scene, but it also had denise richards as a nuclear scientist. seemed like the plots were mostly charisma-free zones

tomorrow never dies seems like the biggest missed opportunity to me. 97 hk handover + michelle yeoh awesome foundation for an interesting/cool bond, too bad it was dumbass crap

yup, I was looking at the list of Brosnan movies and that one was just boooooring, nothing truly offensive that sticks out in my mind

and ott product placement, so even though the cars and gadgets had always been the focus those brosnan ones just got ridic, like watching an aston martin infomercial with occasional dialogue

though I haven't seen any of the brosnans for a long time so maybe I'm exaggerating that?

no, you're completely correct

If for no other reason than this one, I'm glad Punk'd existed.

They sent that smartass kid out to the red carpet at some event and he asked Denise Richards "How did it feel to play someone smart?"

I need to rewatch The Living Daylights. Should I?

omigod I had no idea this existed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUgy7fpUR2A

whoa