which is the best James Bond movie?

yeah idg how the rules and conventions of bond films are really any different, more ritualized or restrictive than any genre conventions or dramatic conventions in general.

tbf, the titles are not particularly useful when trying to tell 23 movies over 50 years apart

dr. no, goldfinger and the man with the third nipple at least tell you who the villain is. the latter three brosnans are particularly unhelpful

particularly

pierce brosnan's delivery of the de-rigeur Bond puns was always u_u

like that whole Christmas coming once a year or w/e

lol

i think the denise richards and the second dalton are the only ones i haven't seen, though several i haven't seen in forever. thank you ted turner.

007 DAYS OF 007

syfy did a bond marathon last Thanksgiving...I wonder if they'll do it this year

I'm in the mood for a bondathon

big problem with the Brosnan ones was that there was one good film and then a quick decline into the most joyless shit imaginable

was goldeneye actually any good though? kinda suspect more a case of brosnan was good for role, they got some stuff right, we were happy to have bond back and recognizable than goldeneye was actually good. haven't seen it since it was in the theater so i could be wrong.

It has some parts where it's a slog, but Sean Bean makes for a good villain and has a decent backstory (tries for almost-as-serious as recent Bond), Famke Janssen is a ridiculous foil/female villain, and Alan Cumming's character always seems on the verge of being from a different, more comedic, film but pulls it off.

no ridiculous sciencey macguffin thing, either, just an almost-plausible ex-soviet weapon hijacked, with a decent reason given for why the plot goes to different locations

i think brosnan was just an average bond but he has probably had the most interesting post-007 career of any of the bonds.

connery had an epic career of course but brosnan's has been a little more unpredictable is what i'm saying.

yeah looking back it's pretty campy and i thought Sean Bean is kinda hammy in it but i haven't seen it for a while. has some great bits (the opening stunt obviously, the psychotic bad girl, Dench's first outing as M..) but is only 'pretty good' imo compared to the previous re-boot The Living Daylights which i still say is THE criminally under-rated Bond film.

Brosnan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p7Gk1y-boM

goldeneye was sort of right time, right place and it doesn't hold up spectacularly well, but it's still a solid bond and better than the rest of the brozzies

the rest were like "whoa weapon shit or something, he's james bond, he jumps around a lot blah blah"

the one with sophie marceau/robert carlyle had some moments, like the sadistic/erotic chair torture scene, but it also had denise richards as a nuclear scientist. seemed like the plots were mostly charisma-free zones

tomorrow never dies seems like the biggest missed opportunity to me. 97 hk handover + michelle yeoh awesome foundation for an interesting/cool bond, too bad it was dumbass crap

yup, I was looking at the list of Brosnan movies and that one was just boooooring, nothing truly offensive that sticks out in my mind

and ott product placement, so even though the cars and gadgets had always been the focus those brosnan ones just got ridic, like watching an aston martin infomercial with occasional dialogue

though I haven't seen any of the brosnans for a long time so maybe I'm exaggerating that?

no, you're completely correct

If for no other reason than this one, I'm glad Punk'd existed.

They sent that smartass kid out to the red carpet at some event and he asked Denise Richards "How did it feel to play someone smart?"

I need to rewatch The Living Daylights. Should I?

omigod I had no idea this existed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUgy7fpUR2A

whoa

If movies are not rituals, somebody is gonna need to explain The Room and The Rocky Horror Picture Show a little better.

Goldeneye is solid as hell and it has the tank chase through St. Petersburg which is the best.

But the game kind of improved on some of it so that's hanging over it.

I need to rewatch The Living Daylights. Should I?

― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

Absolutely, it's in my top three.

Top three Bonds that is, not top three all movies.

Encore showed all (or most) of them a few months ago. I caught Diamonds are Forever and gee willickers that's a stinker. I had completely blocked out the goofball comic villain duo.

you guys are confusing ritual movie viewing with actual movies. this whole holiday = movie analogy is stupid

It's a good movie, captures the mid 90's as much as TLD and LTK capture the late 80's. Dench is great as M, Michael Kitchen good as Tanner, Bean great as the villain (driven as much by his rivalry/envy of Bond as his desire for money/revenge). And the tank chase is brilliant.

this blogger has been going through them all each Sunday for the past several months.

I like that the score he gives has to do with the quality of the Bond tropes and not the actual quality of the film.

geez he sure likes ranking things out of 5

he's kinda otm about Pussy Galore - I always like her more nostalgically than I do when I watch the movie, I forget she's hardly in it

I rather like the two Dalton films, but I'm probably in the minority.

First one hell yes, second one fuck no.

I swear I loved Octopussy among the "heresy Bonds", it was just a ridiculous blast. Haven't seen it in almost 30 years tho.

ie it's the only Roger Moore I really enjoyed, cuz they said "fuck it"

Moonraker was pretty "fuck it" too.

Octopussy as heresy... Or harem?

you only live twice is my fav of the ridiculous bonds. the tone it hits is just perfect

yeah it's the only Connery I have much affection for besides Goldfinger, I guess bcuz of the Roald Dahl-Donald Pleasence factors.

Moonraker was the first one I saw in its first run, but it was too obv pandering to Star Wars era and bringing back R Kiel as Jaws. Points for Bunuel/Duras villain.

I've always found James Bond films utterly tedious.

they frequently are. The one w/ the Australian and Diana Rigg has some good moments but 70% of it is just deathly dull.

I didn't hate live and let die until the speedboat chase that lasted forever.