which is the best James Bond movie?

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yeah looking back it's pretty campy and i thought Sean Bean is kinda hammy in it but i haven't seen it for a while. has some great bits (the opening stunt obviously, the psychotic bad girl, Dench's first outing as M..) but is only 'pretty good' imo compared to the previous re-boot The Living Daylights which i still say is THE criminally under-rated Bond film.

piscesx, Monday, 8 October 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

Brosnan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p7Gk1y-boM

piscesx, Monday, 8 October 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

goldeneye was sort of right time, right place and it doesn't hold up spectacularly well, but it's still a solid bond and better than the rest of the brozzies

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

the rest were like "whoa weapon shit or something, he's james bond, he jumps around a lot blah blah"

the one with sophie marceau/robert carlyle had some moments, like the sadistic/erotic chair torture scene, but it also had denise richards as a nuclear scientist. seemed like the plots were mostly charisma-free zones

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

tomorrow never dies seems like the biggest missed opportunity to me. 97 hk handover + michelle yeoh awesome foundation for an interesting/cool bond, too bad it was dumbass crap

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

yup, I was looking at the list of Brosnan movies and that one was just boooooring, nothing truly offensive that sticks out in my mind

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

and ott product placement, so even though the cars and gadgets had always been the focus those brosnan ones just got ridic, like watching an aston martin infomercial with occasional dialogue

though I haven't seen any of the brosnans for a long time so maybe I'm exaggerating that?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

no, you're completely correct

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

If for no other reason than this one, I'm glad Punk'd existed.

They sent that smartass kid out to the red carpet at some event and he asked Denise Richards "How did it feel to play someone smart?"

Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 October 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

I need to rewatch The Living Daylights. Should I?

omigod I had no idea this existed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUgy7fpUR2A

whoa

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

If movies are not rituals, somebody is gonna need to explain The Room and The Rocky Horror Picture Show a little better.

Tom Hardy & the Batbreakers (Phil D.), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

Goldeneye is solid as hell and it has the tank chase through St. Petersburg which is the best.

But the game kind of improved on some of it so that's hanging over it.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

I need to rewatch The Living Daylights. Should I?

― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

Absolutely, it's in my top three.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

Top three Bonds that is, not top three all movies.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

Encore showed all (or most) of them a few months ago. I caught Diamonds are Forever and gee willickers that's a stinker. I had completely blocked out the goofball comic villain duo.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

you guys are confusing ritual movie viewing with actual movies. this whole holiday = movie analogy is stupid

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

It's a good movie, captures the mid 90's as much as TLD and LTK capture the late 80's. Dench is great as M, Michael Kitchen good as Tanner, Bean great as the villain (driven as much by his rivalry/envy of Bond as his desire for money/revenge). And the tank chase is brilliant.

a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

this blogger has been going through them all each Sunday for the past several months.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

I like that the score he gives has to do with the quality of the Bond tropes and not the actual quality of the film.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

geez he sure likes ranking things out of 5

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

he's kinda otm about Pussy Galore - I always like her more nostalgically than I do when I watch the movie, I forget she's hardly in it

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

I rather like the two Dalton films, but I'm probably in the minority.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 October 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

First one hell yes, second one fuck no.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

I swear I loved Octopussy among the "heresy Bonds", it was just a ridiculous blast. Haven't seen it in almost 30 years tho.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

ie it's the only Roger Moore I really enjoyed, cuz they said "fuck it"

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

Moonraker was pretty "fuck it" too.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 October 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

Octopussy as heresy... Or harem?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

you only live twice is my fav of the ridiculous bonds. the tone it hits is just perfect

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it's the only Connery I have much affection for besides Goldfinger, I guess bcuz of the Roald Dahl-Donald Pleasence factors.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

Moonraker was the first one I saw in its first run, but it was too obv pandering to Star Wars era and bringing back R Kiel as Jaws. Points for Bunuel/Duras villain.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

I've always found James Bond films utterly tedious.

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

they frequently are. The one w/ the Australian and Diana Rigg has some good moments but 70% of it is just deathly dull.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't hate live and let die until the speedboat chase that lasted forever.

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

most of the action scenes in OHMSS are just rapidly cut Winter Olympics.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

has to be said, Jaws was awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64yHgoQMQVM

piscesx, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

Oddjob wd slice him up

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link

affectionate lol @ morbs' deep and measured knowledge of noted sophisticated adult film franchise james bond

i probably like you only live twice best but i've only seen the connery ones and the brosnan ones and scenes from whichever roger moore ones are on spike in between the real ones

goldeneye didn't hold up very well last time i watched it but honestly nor did goldfinger, i think i might just not be twelve anymore. (opening sequence w bono-penned tina turner song and chix swinging hammers and sickles is still joy tho.) the video game's a much bigger deal, obviously. the torture chair scene in the world is not enough, meanwhile, happened when i was exactly twelve, and when i watch it, i am twelve forever. whatever that says.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link

I think I've actually seen maybe three of these movies from start to finish, and my mental James Bond is all garbled up where he looks like Pierce Brosnan, talks like Connery and behaves like Roger Moore. But I do like action fun type movies and MOMA is screening the entire series this month, in two cycles - might try and get down there and pick up a few of the top finishers from the poll.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link

just placed The Living Daylights in my queue; I haven't seen this movie since 1989.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link

also I thought goldeneye on n64 suuuucked but we already hashed that out in the all-time video games ballot poll results thread

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link

(and it was the first Bond film I watched in the thee-ah-ter)

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link

xp oh i kinda think so too because i am a PC shooter snob (i am amazed that so many people played an FPS with a single joystick and no way of aiming while moving like it was perfectly normal), but it's Important is all.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

I mostly stopped watching these movies when I hit mid 20s, save for a few Connery repeats.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:40 (eleven years ago) link

actually, my mental bond looks like brosnan and talks like connery too.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link

I like Bond but don't find there to be THAT much variation in quality between most of them. Like, Goldfinger is indeed a better movie than Tomorrow Never Dies, but not by as great a distance as you'd be led to believe.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link

who is leading us to believe this?

I mean, I for one rate Goldfinger above half of Hitchcock and among the better works of the time, but Tomorrow Never Dies is really shallow in its depiction of media corruption, and lacks the bombastic plot of Network or the subtle yet media-led revelations of Die Hard 2. The variation in film is, as you say, negligible, but hard to put in context.

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:20 (eleven years ago) link

Michelle Yeoh motorcycle scene about all that's worth anything in that movie.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link

you guys have obviously forgotten "sir, the new version of the software is ready. as requested, it's full of BUGS... so people will be forced to UPGRADE." "excellent."

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link


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