New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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From what I understand, Apple is positioning the iPod mini (or whatever they call it) as an alternative to Kindle/Nook-type dedicated book readers - basically an e-reader that can do other things too, more than as a direct competitor to existing small all-purpose tablets which thus far haven't sold very well. I don't think it will cannibalize iPod touch sales even at the same price - it doesn't fit in your pocket which is a key attribute of the both the iPod Touch and the iPhone.

Lee626, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, feel like iPod Touch is the games/teens/apps device, iPad mini is the reader/commuter/thirtysomething device. Hence overlapping prices.

stet, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

I've watched streamed video from Amazon on an iPad and used the Kindle iPad app, and from what I've heard the experience is as good or better on an iPad than on the Fire. The main issue being that you have to purchase the book/video/music/subscription on the web instead of from in the app, but that's not an issue when I'm using Amazon Prime videos or whatever. Purchasing books from a classic Kindle kind of sucks, anyway.

I still think the number of friends I have who regularly listen to music off of an Android-powered phone is nearly zero while iPhone users seem to use it for music more? Might be due to my demographic being skewed, since I bet kids use them for music.

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

it's still easier to get music and manage it on an Apple device, or at least that's the prevailing perception.

I do think the new iPod Touch is a bit pricey for the market they're aiming at though. I'm impressed with the device itself though.

Lee626, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think it will cannibalize iPod touch sales even at the same price - it doesn't fit in your pocket which is a key attribute of the both the iPod Touch and the iPhone.

― Lee626, Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:02 PM (15 minutes ago)

I was considering upgrading my daughter's ipod touch 2 this xmas, but I'd get her the ipad mini instead if the price point is comparable, I have to imagine others will be in the same boat

space dokken (Edward III), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure many will compare the two, in the same way many have decided between a Macbook Air and an iPad 3, but ultimately they'll appeal to different people. I just wouldn't want to carry around a 7 or 8" tablet everywhere I go so if I had to choose only one, I'd go with the iPod touch. But if I used it more for reading than music i'd get the iPad mini.

Lee626, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

well yeah, "cannibalize" usually means taking some portion of sales, I'm not saying the ipad mini is going to completely replace the touch

space dokken (Edward III), Thursday, 18 October 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

(and Apple of course famously doesn't worry about cannibalizing its own products. The iPhone has obv cut deeply into iPod sales, etc.)

Lee626, Thursday, 18 October 2012 09:55 (eleven years ago) link

If you don't cannibalise your own products somebody else will, look at the poor blackberry.

There's some very OTM posts up there. In the states at least there still isn't really a market for tablets, there is a market for kjindles and a market for iPads. I think its absolutely right that the Kindle Fire is being sold as the Kindle plus rather than an iPad competitor because, at the moment, anything that gets sold as an iPad competitor suffers from not being an iPad, even if it is a nominally better device. For a long time now, apple has been able to sell hardware with inferior specs because people want the ecosystem.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 18 October 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link

Does the Nexus 7 not sell well in the US then? Fairly popular here in the UK and looks a good bit of kit for the price.

groovypanda, Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

The iPad is really the only tablet that's selling in States. Retailers say "there isn't a market for tablets; there's a market for iPads".

I don't think that will last indefinitely though. There's lots of good Android apps by now, but most of them are designed for phones, not large-screen tablets.

Lee626, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

(iPad projected to account for 75% of US tablet sales - stats here)

Lee626, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

....in 2012 that is.

i need to learn to proofread my posts before submitting

Lee626, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

http://shawnblanc.net/2012/10/iphone-5/

i just...

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

KILL HIM.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

shouldn't warning signs be going off in your head if you spend more loving detail talking about your phone than your kid, even in a post about said phone? like maybe "hmmm, perhaps I should stop jackin' it to my phone and give my child a hug" or something? I dunno

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

i can't even

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

is it bad to jack it to your phone while hugging your child? next on ilx

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

i could see the ipad mini taking off as a Utility Tablet---could be v useful in a hospital tbh

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe someone will finally develop a half decent and non butt-ugly EMR.

Plasmon, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know much about EMRs but I would bet Epic would figure out how to compile MUMPS down to objective-C bytecode before they'd spend money making something attractive

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link

can't wait for tomorrow, when the ipad mini know-it-alls will actually know it all

turn left onto bisexual woman (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 08:38 (eleven years ago) link

they're streaming this one. it's like the good ol days

stet, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

ok - is it always that ridiculous?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

yes

stet, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

Consumer Reports sues everyone who uses their recommendations since they're non-profit and don't allow their name to be used in advertising. But Apple can afford better lawyers than CR, and this may not qualify as an advert

Lee626, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

shit this new iMac is proper lust territory. if it's retina ima buy it

stet, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

yeah the new imac looks fucking boss

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

fusion drive can i make it do this on my mbp pro i put an extra drive into

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

fusion drive is basically what I've done manually, auto support sounds sweet

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

no retina tho

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

did anyone think they'd really have a 24" or 27" retina-resolution display already? man that shit is still way expensive

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

fusion drive is basically what I've done manually, auto support sounds sweet

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:39 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tutorial

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

27" imac for Crimma, yesss

Not retina, oh well

Have to buy an optical drive separately, oh well

Still, proper lust territory is otm.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

no tutorial needed. just install the OS on a ssd, then make your home directory on another drive in sys prefs and set the settings for iTunes, Aperture, etc. to use the other drive as well

tada

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

I guiltily have Diablo 3 on the SSD too, though

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

ok that is not at all the same thing as fusion drive

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

photoshop and indesign on the flash portion, rzzzzzz

WilliamC, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

fusion drive just moves the most-used files from the hdd to the ssd! otherwise it's about the same afaik

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder how it treats games, though, since those are often all bundled into the .app file

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

100MM ipads sold

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

new version of ibooks supports custom fonts

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

granted my understanding of fusion drive is derived form a single line of a live blog but it seems like it makes the two drives appear as one and then does all the management stuff behind the scenes for you

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

hey a new new ipad

stet, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

ipad 4th generation, wtf are they talking about

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

wow no one saw this coming

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

that is correct, lag∞n. I mostly meant in terms of end result, not in terms of setup

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

SD card reader adapter in ipad, wacky

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Been a while since Apple surprised anyone at one of these events. Was anyone predicting a new new iPad with A6X chip?

Alba, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

end result you only have one drive, unacceptable comparison! (fwiw my set up is the same as yrs)

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link


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