should ilxors be tempbanned for taking their beefs to other social media? (twitter/fbook/myspace/etc)?

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just imagine for a second if the tables were turned and someone was shitting on (redacted) on their public twitter feed

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:28 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can't see that because it's redacted so I'm just going to assume it says Whiney G. Weingarten?

sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Are we circling around to the point where people don't understand that it is not cool to have a go at WCC on twitter? That the fact that you wouldn't mind if it happened to you isn't actually a defense because your experience and hers aren't the same? Are we getting back to faux-shock that when you kick the hornet's nest bad shit happens?

xp I see we are actually getting there.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

AF, please tell me where I had a go at WCC on twitter. Thanks.

Mordy, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

xp SM nah i totally accept you didn't know that, i just think the whys and wherefores here are important

the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

How about the mods make a decision

they will, to

lock this thread,

but shockingly this doesn't result in

and no one mentions it again.

boxall, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET DISAGREES WITH ME, TO THE BATIPHONE

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

(redacted), your insistence that people were "digging" for drama is really off-base/hilarious

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

Matt DC, if a mod had stepped in - after being given multiple opportunities - and spoken to this like adults, it would never have gotten to this point

It was pretty rude of WCC to do it but no sane mod would have taken any actual action because a) people say things that are equally rude and obnoxious shit to each other on the boards themselves every day and b) it doesn't actually matter that much.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

so u can talk about me on twitter and i can talk about yr twitter on ilx & twitter

resolved

zvookster, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

A British poster on a messageboard I frequent doesn't seem to mind if I call him a goatfucker on twitter

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

It was pretty rude of WCC to do it but no sane mod would have taken any actual action because a) people say things that are equally rude and obnoxious shit to each other on the boards themselves every day and b) it doesn't actually matter that much.

― Matt DC, Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:32 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if Mordy's feelings are hurt, and he's bothered by something WCC did. . . why would you argue with that?

beef richards (Mr. Que), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

his feelings i mean

beef richards (Mr. Que), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

I NEVER WENT NEAR A GOAT.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

wcc plays the victim/bully thing to perfection, i'm sort of literally awestruck that some ppl don't see that

i dox in yellow gox dox socks (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

A British poster on a messageboard I frequent doesn't seem to mind if I call him a goatfucker on twitter

Now you must monetise this.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

Matt DC, if a mod had stepped in - after being given multiple opportunities - and spoken to this like adults, it would never have gotten to this point.

― Mordy, Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:26 PM (5 minutes ago)

huh i guess i missed the part where you posted about this on Mod Req, or I Must Protest, or emailed any of us then?

I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

zvookster what is yr twitter, i have feels i need to feel

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

Really? You missed the multiple threads about this on Mod Req and I Must Protest? Or because I didn't start them it didn't matter?

Mordy, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

wcc plays the victim/bully thing to perfection, i'm sort of literally awestruck that some ppl don't see that

^^^^^^

frogbs, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

fwiw this isn't a celebrity using someone's twitter handle and saying they're lame, which is bullying and bad -- this is someone using @name, which only is viewed-by-default by the person replied-to and any shared friends they have, and you have to go directly to their twitter page to see it otherwise

if you're not friends with someone on twitter, it's the common way there to message someone, as direct message only works if the person is following you

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

wcc plays the victim/bully thing to perfection, i'm sort of literally awestruck that some ppl don't see that

― i dox in yellow gox dox socks (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:34 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark

you're just digging for drama

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

mordy is not the enemy here

charlie the luna (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, the crowd of people huffing and puffing over the last few days about how Something Must Be Done About This Terrible Woman have completely blinded me to her Machiavellian ways.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

like, this is EXACTLY HOW YOU REPLY TO SOMEONE ON TWITTER, to be polite, not rude

so it's whether replying to someone in a normal way is rude, or if mentioning someone non-subtly without using their name is rude

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

Mordy, I agreed with you on the button thread until it all got warped and weird. but how on earth is this spat the fault of the ILX mods? you two just need your heads banging together and/or a decent adult conversation, and it's not for the mods to waste their spare time being your mummy and making sure you play nicely.

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

xpost
i don't think anything should be "done" about any of this!

i dox in yellow gox dox socks (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

Nah mh that's only if the first character in your tweet is @ - right? Whereas her tweets said "his name is @mordywhatever"

boxall, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

guys just stop

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

stop it right now

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

I asked for the thread to be locked when Mordy started in on his personal crap. That request was ignored, but what can you do? I went for a walk around the block instead.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

jesus christ Andrew, no one is saying she's totally in the wrong, just that Mordy -- even if he was prodding her, and being patronizing, which I'm willing to believe -- is replying a completely normal fashion, for that site, and there's nothing creepy about him having seen her tweet or him replying to it!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttlFGOOJerU

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

boxall, agreed, I was saying ~Mordy~ followed twitter convention for a private conversation

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

tbf this has nothing to do with the ilx mods, it's mostly about the hypocrisy of (redacted) acting all innocent about bullying mordy on twitter

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

thomasintrouble otm

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

GO FOR A WALK AGAIN YOU CRAZY FUCKS

charlie the luna (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

Really? You missed the multiple threads about this on Mod Req and I Must Protest? Or because I didn't start them it didn't matter?

― Mordy, Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:34 PM (1 minute ago)

dude, i agree that it is shitty, and if it were up to me, i would decide that it is temp-bannable, but it is not my job to decide what you want done about the situation!

I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

guys just stop

― real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stop it right now

― real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god help me, but I heard this in elmo from sesame street's voice.

sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

guys just jam out to Sleater-Kinney and stop all this senseless fighting

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

this is great for developing a list of ilxors who would be fine with being called misogynists, bullies, or creeps off-board.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

let's just talk about the musicians we like to ogle (males only you sick fucks)

frogbs, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

tbh I've thought that WCC has been more reasonable, or at least within normal expected bounds of how people expect others to act in character, than Andrew this week, but I guess I don't know Andrew that well

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

if finding wcc completely intolerable and inexplicably coddled makes me all three, then cool

charlie the luna (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

This is the last thing I will ever say about this because, in the end, it's simply not worth the time and effot. I just read back through the thread which resulted in this happening to me what you said about me WCC was unwarranted and cruel enough so that had this poll been asked then I would have said yes but still now I vote no.

For the record, your earlier accusation that I try to create clusterfucks about you any chance I get is pretty clearly a lie. That whole thing was OVER A YEAR AGO and afaik we've been fine since. I tried being reasonable and understanding to you after that but incident bu there is no use tying to reason with the unreasonable. I am pretty confident that that should be plainly evident to anyone with even the slightest memory and a solid head on the shoulders. I don't create clusterfucks about you, you do.

What's saddest about this whole thing is that I think you're very clearly an intelligent woman whose contributions to the boards I often enjoy and admire but your behavior towards me and others too often overshadows that. You have been downright cruel to me in the past and I'm sorry but no, I can't let that go without mention and have you leaving me looking like bully while playing the victim. Again. I don't want to continue this discussion any further because there really is no point but I needed to defend myself.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

http://rox.com/frames/005/240/cc.jpg

Burgled Hams (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

is this where I admit continued exposure has made me kind of attracted to shirtless thom yorke?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

if Mordy's feelings are hurt, and he's bothered by something WCC did. . . why would you argue with that?

I'm not arguing with it. It's annoying. I'd be annoyed and maybe a bit hurt if someone did that to me. But I don't know why anyone would expect mods to do anything because someone called someone else a mansplainer on a different forum entirely. If she'd posted his real address or libeled him or gone off on one at his offboard friends then maybe but otherwise just deal with it yourself.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

It's the stockbroker ponytail.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

like the number one source of mod outrage is any time where we step in PRIOR to the person in question addressing their wishes. also, there is no rule that has been established at all up until now wrt off board beefs, largely because it almost never happens.

xposts

I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link


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