should ilxors be tempbanned for taking their beefs to other social media? (twitter/fbook/myspace/etc)?

Really? You missed the multiple threads about this on Mod Req and I Must Protest? Or because I didn't start them it didn't matter?

wcc plays the victim/bully thing to perfection, i'm sort of literally awestruck that some ppl don't see that

^^^^^^

fwiw this isn't a celebrity using someone's twitter handle and saying they're lame, which is bullying and bad -- this is someone using @name, which only is viewed-by-default by the person replied-to and any shared friends they have, and you have to go directly to their twitter page to see it otherwise

if you're not friends with someone on twitter, it's the common way there to message someone, as direct message only works if the person is following you

wcc plays the victim/bully thing to perfection, i'm sort of literally awestruck that some ppl don't see that

― i dox in yellow gox dox socks (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:34 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark

you're just digging for drama

mordy is not the enemy here

Yes, the crowd of people huffing and puffing over the last few days about how Something Must Be Done About This Terrible Woman have completely blinded me to her Machiavellian ways.

like, this is EXACTLY HOW YOU REPLY TO SOMEONE ON TWITTER, to be polite, not rude

so it's whether replying to someone in a normal way is rude, or if mentioning someone non-subtly without using their name is rude

Mordy, I agreed with you on the button thread until it all got warped and weird. but how on earth is this spat the fault of the ILX mods? you two just need your heads banging together and/or a decent adult conversation, and it's not for the mods to waste their spare time being your mummy and making sure you play nicely.

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i don't think anything should be "done" about any of this!

Nah mh that's only if the first character in your tweet is @ - right? Whereas her tweets said "his name is @mordywhatever"

guys just stop

stop it right now

I asked for the thread to be locked when Mordy started in on his personal crap. That request was ignored, but what can you do? I went for a walk around the block instead.

jesus christ Andrew, no one is saying she's totally in the wrong, just that Mordy -- even if he was prodding her, and being patronizing, which I'm willing to believe -- is replying a completely normal fashion, for that site, and there's nothing creepy about him having seen her tweet or him replying to it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttlFGOOJerU

boxall, agreed, I was saying ~Mordy~ followed twitter convention for a private conversation

tbf this has nothing to do with the ilx mods, it's mostly about the hypocrisy of (redacted) acting all innocent about bullying mordy on twitter

thomasintrouble otm

GO FOR A WALK AGAIN YOU CRAZY FUCKS

Really? You missed the multiple threads about this on Mod Req and I Must Protest? Or because I didn't start them it didn't matter?

― Mordy, Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:34 PM (1 minute ago)

dude, i agree that it is shitty, and if it were up to me, i would decide that it is temp-bannable, but it is not my job to decide what you want done about the situation!

guys just stop

― real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stop it right now

― real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god help me, but I heard this in elmo from sesame street's voice.

guys just jam out to Sleater-Kinney and stop all this senseless fighting

this is great for developing a list of ilxors who would be fine with being called misogynists, bullies, or creeps off-board.

let's just talk about the musicians we like to ogle (males only you sick fucks)

tbh I've thought that WCC has been more reasonable, or at least within normal expected bounds of how people expect others to act in character, than Andrew this week, but I guess I don't know Andrew that well

if finding wcc completely intolerable and inexplicably coddled makes me all three, then cool

This is the last thing I will ever say about this because, in the end, it's simply not worth the time and effot. I just read back through the thread which resulted in this happening to me what you said about me WCC was unwarranted and cruel enough so that had this poll been asked then I would have said yes but still now I vote no.

For the record, your earlier accusation that I try to create clusterfucks about you any chance I get is pretty clearly a lie. That whole thing was OVER A YEAR AGO and afaik we've been fine since. I tried being reasonable and understanding to you after that but incident bu there is no use tying to reason with the unreasonable. I am pretty confident that that should be plainly evident to anyone with even the slightest memory and a solid head on the shoulders. I don't create clusterfucks about you, you do.

What's saddest about this whole thing is that I think you're very clearly an intelligent woman whose contributions to the boards I often enjoy and admire but your behavior towards me and others too often overshadows that. You have been downright cruel to me in the past and I'm sorry but no, I can't let that go without mention and have you leaving me looking like bully while playing the victim. Again. I don't want to continue this discussion any further because there really is no point but I needed to defend myself.

http://rox.com/frames/005/240/cc.jpg

is this where I admit continued exposure has made me kind of attracted to shirtless thom yorke?

if Mordy's feelings are hurt, and he's bothered by something WCC did. . . why would you argue with that?

I'm not arguing with it. It's annoying. I'd be annoyed and maybe a bit hurt if someone did that to me. But I don't know why anyone would expect mods to do anything because someone called someone else a mansplainer on a different forum entirely. If she'd posted his real address or libeled him or gone off on one at his offboard friends then maybe but otherwise just deal with it yourself.

It's the stockbroker ponytail.

like the number one source of mod outrage is any time where we step in PRIOR to the person in question addressing their wishes. also, there is no rule that has been established at all up until now wrt off board beefs, largely because it almost never happens.

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xxp I think calling him a misogynist and a bully is pretty libelous tbf

If this didn't keep coming up I would never have mentioned it on ILX again. Especially since I thought WCC was taking a (clearly needed) break from ILX posting. But now she's back and I feel like I need to defend myself.

So maybe I've been missing out on what I can request from the mods. Is there a full list of services?

i know what my policy would be and you're all sorry i was deposed admit it

And neither one of these principals like me so I have no dog in the fight. I just like Sleater-Kinney.

btw it took me a long time to write that and figure out what I wanted to say so that was a whole lot of crossposts and I didn't see a lot of the posts in between

I'm not sure whether it is or isn't in general a good idea or polite to follow someone to another site and continue an argument there, I think it varies by context - but if the context is that it's WCC, then it's pretty much always a terrible idea. Even if you've got a notification saying "Hey WCC mentioned you", leave it be. If anyone thinks this is an appalling double standard because you wouldn't feel the same way, fucking stop - you're all old enough to know better.

See, that's wise, but it's also the most patronizing thing ever

thanks for telling us how to treat people xp

thanks for the advice, Dear Abby

I just like Sleater-Kinney.

Phil OTFM

andrew otm

Andrew, you've seen what I wrote on twitter. Do you believe me telling her that I didn't want to argue with her and didn't hate her was irresponsible? Do you think I was unreasonable to think that a twitter post like that might chill things out? Obviously I know better now, but please.

I want to wash my eyeballs with acid.

Mordy, ENBB and American female posters more broadly, DJP, contenderizer, who else has this almost never happened to?

thank you for explaining to us men how to not offend a particular lady?

that is the most mansplaining thing yet, but yet it's very true, in its way

So many passive-agressive motherfuckers on this thread.

honestly if i was a woman my guts would be twisted with rage every time wcc pulls her shit but since i'm not a woman i just get to be an irritated misogynist