so can I be a mod
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
hover your mouse over google's new "I'm feeling lucky random-o-crazy wheel" and do whatever it tells you to do
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
I think I'm being misunderstood here - I'm not defending WCC as such - I've spent a few days of my life gnashing my teeth at her views of what is public and what is private - I'm just saying if you want to interact in a message board with her, this is a useful rule of thumb - also saying that I do on balance want her on the message board.
Apart from anything else, keeping frogbs concerned about poking his head out because someone is "constantly crying misogynist and mansplainer" is I hope a public good we can all agree on.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
bring back suggest ban
― Anime Mann (diamonddave85), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
andrew otm imo.
― purveyor of generations (in orbit), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
I locked my twitter to get him to stop.
"i locked my twitter to get him to stop" instead of "i locked my twitter so i could talk shit about ilx beef in private w/o getting called out for it on the board" is a pretty perfect example of the bullying/victim thing that strongo is talking about, btw
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
how are we possibly going to explain our lives to saint peter
― charlie the luna (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
We're not allowed to talk shit about ILX beefs in private? x-post
― Melissa W, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
strongo can I have some of whatever you're drinking? Insensibility would be better than my sinuses right now.
― purveyor of generations (in orbit), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
Andrew offtm, the entire message board doesn't adjust their conduct to meet a special standard of civil interaction for one person, it's the other way around.
― boxall, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
what boxall said
― pandemic, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
I asked, a week ago, for Mordy to fucking stop. And he carried on. I finally just have enough, of the clusterfuck taking over every goddamn thread, and now he's trying to be all high and mighty "please stop" because I actually asked for my chance to tell my side of the story?
All I have wanted for the past week was for this to fucking stop, and yet ILX could not resist dragging it back up at every turn.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
― Melissa W, Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sure, but don't go on playing the victim about it
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
xp you shouldn't ascribe intentions to "ilx".
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
The clusterfuck just kept carrying on and carrying on
no it didn't, u were pretty much ignored until your friend caused it to be brought up on Monday. if u talk about someone publically on twitter as you were talking about mordy, they can talk about it here.
― zvookster, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
http://991.com/newGallery/Michael-Jackson-Man-In-The-Mirror-35195.jpg
― Burgled Hams (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
I've already stated that I took my feed private bcz every time someone posts a link to it from here I get weird followers. The tweet is still there, I just don't like having to block ppl like Chaki and Whiney and Lagoon from trying to follow me bcz they think there's ~drama~ to be had, OK?
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i take umbrage at being lumped in w/these known hooligans!
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
im sick of the hypocrisy in this thread
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
but this thread is going nowhere and we need to avoid pile-ons. The facts are out there folks but no sign of apologies which tbh is all thats needed.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
I just don't understand how someone can cause the exact same clusterfuck every month and then play victim afterwards.
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
ok everyone this is ILX and ILX is not about personal sniping across social media platforms. ILX is about Taylor Swift records and Tarantino films and disgruntled left-winger hand wringing. It's about trucker hats and talking dinosaurs and having hot chicks in our beds after we play awesome metal shows. we need to remember why we all came together to share our ideas about UK Funky House and Velvet Underground minutiae and Drake. we need to remember that we hate pitchfork but read it religiously, and that we're not cool with Amanda Palmer. we need to remember why we are who we are. in the name of Aaliyah, we need to remember.
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
amen
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
I stopped getting nasty emails about the Aaliyah death thread just a while ago actually.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
*checks email script*
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
People here have already formed their opinions about who I am, and what my motivations are. Some people are going to believe that I'm an awful person and should be burned at the stake no matter what I do. Some people are going to accept me as flawed but fully rounded human being. There's nothing I can say or do at this point to change anyone's opinion of me.
But when someone starts calling for me to be banned because they are either unable to tell "mansplainer" from their name, or because they just flat out lied, I have the right to call them out on it. People have been calling me out for real or imagined transgressions for the past week, it seems only fair.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
(for the record, since I guess you mean me?)
u were pretty much ignored until your friend caused it to be brought up on Monday.
Odd friends she's keeping
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
I'll try that again
"Some people are going to believe that I'm an awful person and should be burned at the stake no matter what I do. Some people are going to accept me as flawed but fully rounded human being."
I smell a poll.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
Please don't. I'm serious.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
There's nothing I can say or do at this point to change anyone's opinion of me.
not true! just be chill for a while.
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
and stop making up things
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
I do not judge people by their words, I judge them by their actions.
― boxall, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
WCC, if you seriously believe anyone thinks you are an awful person and should be burned at the stake then you probably need mental help. I suggest you close your browser, log off your computer and go get some.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
and you cant accuse me of being someone who hated you.
alex i dont think thats being helpful
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
wcc was clearly joking
"I'm serious"
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
I think there's reasonable evidence for the first part of that, Alex, and the second is just hyperbole.
Also, now as always, fuck 'respectfully'.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
I say no but then again I haven't had an extracurricular beef with anyone. If I'm getting on somebody's nerves i try to just step away from the thread and give it some air. If you are having a debate w someone about a subject and the two of you disagree to the point where it's getting nasty, there's not really much point in pursuing it, as it's clear neither side is going to come to an agreement.
Btw is there any way to check if you've been sb'd?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
i just read the "button" thread again. this whole thing turns on a technical question of whether a discussion of "willingly causing yourself to not exist" can/should include discussion of suicide, and/or whether a thread starter can dictate terms of a thread.
WCC told the thread that she started that, no, you can't talk about suicide here.
Mordy disregarded that (so did others, so did i!) and brought up "death of the author" and thread ownership, said he "disagreed" with WCC about what WCC's thread was even about. this is the "mansplaining" part.
and it devolved from there. i mean, that's it. does anyone dispute that?
the irony is that the discussion was pretty good before, during and after it got heated. and suicide continued to be discussed.
― there is no dana, only (goole), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
should ilxors be banned at the stake for taking their beefs to other social media?
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
I'm serious = DO NOT START A POLL THREAD.
"Burned at the stake" is a metaphor. (Though I'm not so sure this is always the case, given some of the creeptastic hate mail I've had over the years.)
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
Tarantino filmes?
― sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.betterbusinessbetterlife.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Head-In-Hands-by-Alex-E.-Proimos.jpg
― Burgled Hams (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
btw i object the thread title implication that ilx is social media, like if u agree
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
most will be afraid to
AF, do you think k3vin k hates jon too? It's a message board for crying out loud. No one is that invested in anyone else as a "person". At worst I think you can argue people think WCC is an annoying poster.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 October 2012
yeah farrell i already posted what led to that
― zvookster, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
for this rebeef much thanks
― velko, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
Wrote this 30 minutes ago then chickened out on posting it, but fuck it:
I'm really uncomfortable with the idea that it's libelous to call someone a misogynist now (whether you agree with the appellation or not, it is not good to set any kind of precedent that disallows someone from calling out someone's misogyny/racism/etc. using the vocabulary available to them, ESPECIALLY when it is of the controversial or insidious type where a lot of people will deny that it could possibly be any kind of offensive). Calling someone a misogynist is an opinion, not an accusation of specific dastardly action and whether people think WCC "abuses" the term or not is not really relevant to the discussion.
Also, as someone who follows WCC on twitter, she really didn't mention Mordy by name until AFTER he brought up twitter on that other thread.
No comment on the rest of this.
― Melissa W, Thursday, 18 October 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link