no yeah that's a good point, i was trying to think of someone with semi-recent hits who'd be relevenat to that discussion and that's totally who was on the tip of my tongue (although i've never been clear on whether R. is super hands on w/ the beat-making or always has co-producers in the mix)
― awful wedded wein (some dude), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
Marsha Ambrosius self-wrote and -produced a few tracks on her last album but they weren't the hits.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
from what I understand, Kells usually produces completely by himself but will occasionally have coproducers and for a couple projects has farmed out most of the production
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
I guess his only albums where he's done that are Untitled and to a lesser extent R.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
he also tends to use session musicians on some of his more lush stuff, compared to "Adorn" being just a guy programming everything. but still yeah good call w/ kells.
― awful wedded wein (some dude), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
OHHHH
I read this thread on my phone while drunk on the night bus just now and was really confused cuz it looked like you were talking about kelis
― lex pretend, Saturday, 20 October 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
now the "i ain't talkin kelis" line from "clique" is stuck in my head
― my mansplain songz (some dude), Saturday, 20 October 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
was p awful for me last year living half an hour from detroit and even car radios had trouble picking up rap/r&b stations, wth america― 乒乓, Saturday, October 20, 2012 4:33 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 乒乓, Saturday, October 20, 2012 4:33 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
u live in MI?
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 21 October 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link
DID u live in MI? is the q I meant to ask
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 21 October 2012 03:20 (eleven years ago) link
I've lived within 45 miles of Detroit my whole life and have never had trouble picking up any of the R&B stations.
― Andy K, Sunday, 21 October 2012 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
rev, vancouver > seattle, for real
― heiswagger (rennavate), Sunday, 21 October 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
for chinese food, but that's about it
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 October 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
has no one discussed the full track-by-track commentary on spotify? his divergent, almost rhetorical questions are awesome, 'kaleidoscope dream' and 'candles in the sun' specifically
http://open.spotify.com/album/6VcyVQu3YmkzIWvxHVyCCB
also this album taught me how to spell kaleidoscope correctly and for that, miguel, i thank you
― nose, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
i'd been meaning to listen to that (after generally avoiding every spotify commentary)
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
hay everybody, this album is really really good
i kinda don't like the re-do of candles in the sun, seems like it wouldn't even make sense if you didn't know the ADC version
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
thank you, i was starting to feel like the only person here who sees that version as a downgrade and a bum note for the album
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i feel the same way
the rest of this album is ridiculously good though
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
I feel equally blah about both versions. It would have been the weakest song on the album either way.
― nose, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:10 AM Bookmark
^^^^this
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
i like how simple, loose and reverb-y his guitar playing is, kind of a wildcard element in the sound
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
I thought he played more guitar but "Pussy is Mine" is the only song on which no one else gets credit.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
oh ha, i should have hedged with "the" instead of "his" but i had assumed it was him...
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
He didn't play it on "Arch & Point"?
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
this is insane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaleidoscope_Dream#Content
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
OMG
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
oh god. that's almost as bad as the wiki page for Kendrick's joint.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
the version of the album i downloaded has these really loud rave synths all over and are all tagged "remixed by sh0rty" :-(
― flopson, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
lol gross
I don't think anyone has mentioned this but I love how much tape hiss there is on "Arch & Point"
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 30, 201
I thought he did :(
Ace job putting his fingers on the right frets though.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
xposts YOLO imagery! wut
― Roz, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
I've been kind of disappointed to see that he doesn't seem to play that song live at all. :(
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
it does seem like it should be a live staple, doesn't it
strangely heartened to see that miggy has warranted some obsessive wiki attention
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
It transitions into the rock song "Arch & Point", which has lascivious lyrics,[30] sexually-charged ballet metaphors,[22] bare power pop elements,[6] plopping percussion, and an acoustic guitar coda.[17]
#plop
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
sexually charged plopping
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
bare power plot elements
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
dammit
bare power plop elements
See Also:PBR&B
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My least favorite song is "Where's the Fun in Forever?" by far. I actually kind of like teh album version of "Candles in the Sun" better than the ADC version, the album version is appropriately rejigged as an Album Closer that works really well, throbs with this "important statement" vibe that isn't in-your-face or preachy, also I really like the hazier feel, and those drum fills when he says "heros often get SHOT" are amazing.
― king louie riel (rennavate), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
i also think the john lennon interview at the end of the adc is a little obvious
― king louie riel (rennavate), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
strong yolo imagery in beyond good & evil
― ogmor, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
My least favorite song is Pussy Is Mine. It just feels a bit cheap, jokes and all.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ Yeah, I've started to skip it tbh.
Some people have grafittied YOLO on walls.[3][4] It has become a popular Twitter hashtag.[5] Some youth have said that it is their motto,[6][7]
In a news article, the reporter compared the phrase YOLO to Yolo County California.[20]
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
i love "where's the fun in forever?", it feels so low-key and detached without actually losing its anthemic qualities. vocal arrangements are awesome, so's the steam-train rhythm and i the bit where the bass drops out and alicia and the handclaps come in >>>>>>>>
"pussy is mine" works oddly well as a tossed-off trifle at that point in the album, hard to hate. i guess "adorn" really is my least favourite on the album
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
lol shine on you stubborn diamond
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
"Where's the fun..." is great imo, in my top 5 on the album
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
"The Thrill" is the one I skip.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
if i skip any it's "use me" & "don't look back" cuz sometimes i'm not in the mood for bombastic stadium rock
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
half the album is bombastic stadium rock tho.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
"use me" is amazing and not really very bombastic imo
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
i NEVER skip "use me"
if i'm not in the mood for "use me" and "do you..." i'm not in the mood for miguel, or life, or anything - those two are THE songs on the album for me
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
oh i agree that "use me" is one of the very best songs on the album, sometimes i don't feel like hearing it tho
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link