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surprised they didnt put it at $299, maybe theres just no margin there

― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:31 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im guessing no, cuz apple never does the lose-money-for-market-share thing

ya, guess theyll bring the price down on the original once they introduce the 2nd gen

I just wishing the older ipod touch would go lower :(

ipad mini not thin enough

its so weird that there still arent any android itouch type devices, allows apple to jack the price up

Toby: yeah, very light: 1/2lb heavier than Air

Sounds good. Suspect I'll be getting one of those, then.

its so weird that there still arent any android itouch type devices, allows apple to jack the price up

― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:40 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's prob not worth the cost to produce them... if phones go for like $800 unsubsidized and these things are basically phones without the radio... selling them for $200-$300 has gotta be rough

if they can sell an ipad mini for 320 i think they can go lower than 3 for an itouch, iphones fwiw are highly profitable

xp Samsung Galaxy Player line a somewhat credible iPod touch alternative

credible... at getting your kid mad at u on xmas

so can anyone confirm that the ipad mini is in fact smaller

Samsung Galaxy Player line a somewhat credible iPod touch alternative

― Lee626, Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:55 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

huh did not know that existed tbh

so can anyone confirm that the ipad mini is in fact smaller

― 乒乓, Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:57 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we're going to have to wait for the reviews

So they downgraded the resolution from "the new ipad" to this? Back to the ipad 2 res? Weird choice.

damn

well they downgraded the pixel count to ipad2 levels not the resolution, to keep the cost down id imagine

Oh so it's the same res per inch as the 3? Okay.

it's actually the same screen as the ipad 3 but with the same pixel counts as the ipad 1 giving the same ppi as the ipad 2 but not quite putting it in the same category as the ipad 4

its in between is my understanding

does ipad mini have flush headphone jack

I'm not an Apple fanboy but I have to hand it to Tim Cook - this is the first keynote he's given where he really approached "reality distortion field" charisma - making the new products seem way ahead of the competition (at least if you don't analyze it too closely). With all of the pre-announcement focus on the iPad mini (and to a lesser extent the 13" RMBP), hardly anyone was anticipating the iPad 4 this early (except maybe to switch over to the lighting connector) but not with so many upgrades, or the super-slim iMac.

Retina display on iPad mini would have been nice but would have driven price and size up unacceptably and battery life down (and besides, they need something to make Mini buyers upgrade to the Mini 2 next year), but the smaller screen vs. iPad 2 should make pixels less visible. Also, I like the iPod touch 5 but it seems even more overpriced now. Surprised it's sold so well.

the iMac has been due for a redesign, so i'm happy to see it finally get one. I got mine in early '08, a little more than a year after the aluminum ones debuted, I think, and they haven't substantially changed until now. i'm sure they'll have a retina display iMac at some point, but a 27' version would probably be ungodly expensive (not to mention the video hardware needed to push it). good chance i'll pick one up early next year.

iPod touch will always feel like a modest option to the iPhone, since there's no data plan or forced contract... arguably you just don't need a smartphone if you're carrying it around with you in a city with plenty of WiFi

right so I assume devs will suddenly stop optimising their laggy apps for the a5x ipad because now there's a new one and they don't have to

brilliant

no really, brilliant

thanks tim cock

Wonder what sort of geek bench scores the new iMac will get. If it matches my 2008 Mac Pro I'll probably switch

I guess it's been almost two years since I got this 2006/2007 (lol) Mac Pro that I did a processor swap on and put a ssd in. I would imagine an imac outperforms it by a fair bit but... I've got eight cores! And a shitload of hard drives.

uh oh autumn almanac is having another apple panic attack

looks like you can't buy the current ipad *or* the previous one on the online shop, just the ipad 2

uh, k

what's this 'another' panic attack btw, i don't recall ever having an apple panic attack

did you know that itunes has checkboxes

YOU have checkboxes

anybody wanna buy my limited edition ipad 3? only $800

it's the product apple doesn't want you to have

iPod touch will always feel like a modest option to the iPhone, since there's no data plan or forced contract... arguably you just don't need a smartphone if you're carrying it around with you in a city with plenty of WiFi

― Nhex, Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:24 PM (13 minutes ago)

For me, the iPod touch is less an "iPhone without the phone" than an iPad that fits in my pocket (which is why I don't think the iPad mini will destroy iTouch sales). Around here, wi-fi is in just about every home, office, library, bookstore, restaurant, and hotel - so it's easy enough to get online when I need to, and I don't have to pay for an expensive data contract. But I do need to pay the monthly bill on my cheap flip-phone, so I wind up paying about half of what I would for an iPhone instead of the iPod touch/dumbphone duo. It would be nice to only have to carry one device for both purposes, and there are some times where nearly-fulltime internet access would be useful (i.e. in the car or public transport). So I'm planning on trading up to an iPhone 5 as soon as I can decide whether to sign my life over to Verizon or Sprint for the next 2 years. The former offers widespread LTE and better coverage, but ridiculously expensive by-the-GB monthly data plans; Sprint offers unlimited data (albeit without tethering) but almost no LTE coverage yet, and somewhat inferior voice and 3G coverage as well - although their voice quality is top-notch. Tough choice.

perhaps the entry level (minipad) us$329 price point is to stave off comparisons with the entry level us$299 ipod touch

which has twice the storage

yeah I think ipad mini is not priced low enough to kill kindle/android, but it is close enough to an ipod touch that some folks will go for the mini over the ipod, but we beat that cannibalization topic to death last week

yes

Wtf is the deal with the ad copy on the "design" pages on apple.com now? Both iPad and mini sites have these 1880s-style slabs of text

interested to know how many people will ask me if I'm getting a minipad (lol like I have a single reason to buy one)

does this mean the bigger one is gonna be called... the maxi-ipad

*tips sunglasses*

the text on the "design" link on both looks normal to me (in Firefox)

i think Apple thinks the (not all that large) price premium over the Google/Amazon tablets won't dissuade too many ppl, especially since Apple made a good case for why it's more useful (significantly larger screen space in real-life use, compatibility with 25K existing iPad specific apps that Android tablets can't come close to matching, etc.)

oi, I came up with maxipad yonks ago, gerroff my patch sunshine xp

xp OTOH the "features" link on the full-size iPad is cut off on the right side, at least in Firefox - completely unreadable

Also, the Apple home page and iPad description doesn't make it at all clear that there's a new fourth-gen iPad available at all.

it's got a 'the new ipad' tile at the bottom, which is exactly at the last one said, so yeah, odd

it doesn't really *do* anything new though, apart from just beefing up shit that probably should have been in there six months ago

"Features" on full-size iPad on apple.com not working for me at all in Safari either. iMovie and Siri descriptions completely cut off on right 1/3 of screen.

could be server load (didn't a similar thing happen after a recent product launch?)

style sheet not fully loading or something