Rolling Metal Thread 2012

That could be either Blodhemn or Eld, in which case you have some catching up to do. And by catching up, I mean get Mardraum and Below the Lights and call it a day.

The new Converge is really impressive. Totally different than the last one, but like Axe to Fall a huge leap beyond everything they'd done before (yes, including Jane Doe).

i can't stop listening to it.

they sound like they've got at least a few drummers

I love the raw sound on the new Converge, and the songs have a better sequencing too which really helps.

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/nominate-orphaned-land-for-the-2013-nobel-peace-prize.html

Witch Mountain & Castle are rolling through Rochester tonight, Canada for a few days then back down to Boston, NY, then through the South to Cali and Oregon. A pretty ambitious tour -- I highly recommend the show!

http://fastnbulbous.com/witch-mountain-castle-mares-of-thrace-at-empty-bottle/

I knew a certain person loved those early Pantera album covers but he's gone too far imo
http://imageshack.us/a/img338/3427/106087133acovtid1854261.jpg

A little bit Molly Hatchet, a little bit Pantera.

Anyway, I am really digging the Witch Cross reissue guys. REALLY. A lot.

This is last year's news but I wasn't sure where else to post it... But gosh, Asylum by Morne is a really, really impressive record. I'd be greatly appreciative of some further recommendations in that vein.

Yeah it really is a brilliant album. You got the album before it? its equally as impressive.

That's definitely on my to-pick-up list...

Last night I curled up and listened to the two Ufomammut records back to back. As a single piece it might be my favorite record of the year. I just don't have 90+ uninterrupted minutes to experience it very often.

so, no more grace in landmine? do we care?

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2012/10/grace_perry_lea.html

Wildly overrated band. So, no.

Echo Nest data says the most similar bands to Morne are: Tombs, Agrimonia, Damad, The Atlas Moth, Summon the Crows, Rwake, Dark Castle, Monachus, Planks, Rabbits, Kowloon Walled City, Lord Mantis, Hull, Black Tusk, Indian, Deadbird, Zoroaster, Black Sheep Wall, Dukatalon, Tephra.

Glenn any news on being able to do the metal eoy poll this year?

Thread people do you want a poll?

Not if you're rolling out 200 albums, but if you want to do 50 or whatever than cool.

Then cool. Damn phone second guessing my bad typing.

what difference does it make? The point is to introduce good metal albums to ilx that might not get exposure elsewhere.

I'm not rehashing the argument for the umpteenth time. As with your other polls, feel free to do without my input. As poll runner that's your right, and others enjoy so go with my blessing.

but you're saying you wont vote or anything unless its a top 50 only!

Yep. Same as I haven't voted in the 70s or 80s polls. I don't enjoy them so don't participate.

All because of a longer rollout?

Yes. I enjoy polls that are as much about what placed as where it placed. I like the suspense; it keeps me engaged where a long rollout doesn't. It's all personal preference.

so you're not interested in discovering albums that are good that you didn't know about?

Hrm, something between 200 and 50, I see an ideal compromise here, 100! While not that many people actually like 100 metal albums in a year, there is easily a top 100 that will interest various folks. I know I usually get turned on to a dozen albums or so every poll that I'd missed. Hopefully we can talk EZ into at least voting for his top 20?

Last night I was listening to some doom (Pagan Altar, Candlemass, Saint Vitus) and reading H.P. Lovecraft's "The Dreams In The Witch House." I recently reviewed Pagan Altar's Judgement Of The Dead complete with a ghost story: http://fastnbulbous.com/pagan-altar-judgement-of-the-dead-1982/

Any other Halloween-inspired listening?

I fucking hate ILX polls and poll threads. Frankly, I think we need an I Love Polls board where that's all it is, and every other ILX board is mercifully poll-free. If you run an end-of-year poll (which we all know damn well you're going to, because that's what you do here), I will not read it or participate.

Note: This is not a reflection on you as a person, AG, so please don't take it as a personal attack.

I think its usually 100 and he refuses to participate. Last year he got others to join him.

hah xp

I've said this all before, but since you keep prodding I'll say it again. I think there are plenty of ways to discover new stuff, like reading this rolling thread, for example. A best of/year in review should be about the things the voting community agrees on, not everything each member likes. The ballots we all post after do a great job of that, and I don't think the poll should try.

Again, different strokes for different folks.

I think 100 is still too much, because the voting pool is small. The whole ILM community only does a top 77 with way more voters.

noted, phil. no worries.

xp

and it misses out on a LOT of good albums as a result.

I'm pretty sure I voted last year despite my reservations. Maybe not though. I definitely voted in the main poll.

Every cutoff misses great records. Just lost them all and have fun.

List not lost. Fucking phone.

once the results are in hardly anyone is interested in albums in other peoples ballots. Its far more likely an album getting its 15 mins of fame in a longer rollout will get way more checking it out than it showing up in someones ballot.

But if you're not happy with the way myself,jjj and glenn run the poll, then feel free to run it yourself without us if you think you can do better.

Dude, it's nothing against any of you! I keep telling you to have fun because people seem to like your style. It's not my thing, as I've said for years, and instead of being snarky this time I was friendly and explained my thoughts.

Again, have fun and do that thing you do. But don't take it personally when I don't participate. I was always at the fringes of centricity (or however that was phrased) anyways so my missing votes won't even matter much.

the only thing that matters is the poll. And if it can be run better and get more participants by someone else running it i'm happy to step aside.

Dude, don't be silly. I have nothing against any of you or how you choose to run a poll. I just explained why I'm not participating and wasn't even snarky about it (for a change, I freely admit). I have a different philosophy, that's all.

Good luck, have fun, and my historically fringe votes won't even be missed very much.

ag, i have no idea why i bother, but here goes:

if you want to turn people on to new records, a top-200 rollout is an awful way to do it. i don't have time to listen to samples from 150 records. i also don't have time to follow a thousand-post thread that takes days and days to finish. if you did a top 50, i could follow the whole thing and listen to many of the ones that i hadn't heard.

but you're going to do whatever you want so

it was not me who mentioned a top 200 fwiw it was ez snappin

you did 125. my point stands.

well, we could dispense with a rollout completely and just put a full list in one post just like how it happens in a magazine.

Do we have to have this argument every year?!

Apparently.

but i'll tell you what. I'll come up with a few formats then run a standard poll with them and we agree to abide with the results. That way everyone has their say. Cant say fairer than that.

ez does,jeff.

Dude, just do a top 50 or 100. 200 is WAY too much. I really appreciate the hard work you put in running the poll, but since this thing is supposed to be for the community and not something that you came up with yourself (like the 70s and 80s polls), I feel like the community does have a say in the rollout – And it seems like the community is saying that they want a smaller list.

dear j3ff i did not say i was doing a top 200. That was ez snappin.

Okay, piss off AG. You asked a question, I gave a short, succinct answer and you just kept picking and poking.

Do whatever makes you happy dude, and don't worry about pleasing me or me carping about it anymore. I'm done.

Best wishes, etc.,

What kind of EOY Metal Poll do you want this year?

And i put a no poll option for phil

Angry metal dudes! It seems AG is trying hard to accommodate here. Personally I really don't understand the complaints about longer rollouts. If you don't think they're fun or useful, just wait for the last day when the top 10 or whatever are revealed. What's the big friggin deal?