honestly part of the mental game with this for me was finally admitting to myself that yes, a strong minority motivation was 'cosmetic'
― goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
goole congrats on being sw0le :)
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
oh man i'm nowhere near my sw0le g0ls
― goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
learning to do olympic/power lifts *correctly* (or so i hope) in the past year or so has been really mind-blowing. sort of a light turning on: "so THIS is what it's supposed to feel like." I actually enjoy squatting, dead-lifting, and all that now. and i pretty much gave up any exercise that doesn't work at least a few muscle groups at a time.
i go to the gym every 4th day (doing yoga on the 3 days in between) and try to pack in the protein and i've never felt better in my life.
― ryan, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
i think a big part of the mental game for me was that I realized for the longest time i'd actually do whatever I could to make things *easier* rather than build the foundations to really improve.
― ryan, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
― goole, Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:01 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
people doing curls make me literally vomit
― caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah. those kinds of things are such a total waste of time. you drop all that and all of a sudden your workout takes a 1/3 of the time and is 10x more effective.
― ryan, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
i've cut the weight in half or more on every major lift over the past year or two just to connect or reconnect with form / what i'm actually doing / why i'm doing it and it's made such a huge difference. also yoga 4 core 4 life.
xp i don't get curl hate. done right they're amazing. cable press-downs on the other hand....
― Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
i am kind of doughy at the moment because my gym is 10 yards away from ground zero in this video and was shut for all of september http://vimeo.com/48399328. it's really nice at the moment because a lot of the guys seem to have quit or moved to another gym.
one thing i like about gyms in germany is the squat racks are always free because people are either doing curls (lol) or doing serious calisthenics (some of these dudes are amazing).
going in a couple of hours actually. iirc tonight i will squat 5x5 175lb (i.e. 1xBW), bench 5x5 100, row 5x5 100.
― caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
seriously, everyone on earth should squat. this is key to universal consciousness.
― goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
squat. eat broccoli, quinoa and sardines. live forever.
― caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
and if i see you using the foam pad on your barbell during the squat then i hope you poop accidentally during your first set.
― caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
I go 2 gym and do not squat, I have had back problems in my life and am worried about technique
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
start by doing 'air squats' ie no weight
when those get ok start with an empty bar. that's 45 lb, you could even start by holding up a couple of small dumbbells
― goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
i have bad knees (poss hereditary) and fear doing any leg-related lifts
― toto coolio (clouds), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I do air squats already
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
when squatting to proper depth your knees are not being taxed so much xp
― carne asada, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
unless you have disk problems, i think squat is pretty a low risk exercise for your back. all the weight goes straight down your spine. there's not much torque. maybe give it a try with an unloaded bar to see how it feels.
saw a calisthenics guy do a one-handed chin-up last week btw. wanted to cry.
― caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
yeah make sure you don't stop your squat half-way, that is bad for your knees
i have 'bad knees' and they've never felt better after a year of this
― goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
i have turned around halfway when i've had to on a weight. it was agony. i have no idea what those guys who go to like 30 degrees above horizontal think they are doing.
xp otm. squats are good for strength but they are #1 for knees, groin and lower back stability
― caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
when i've had to bail on a weight, i mean.
lol i totally use the foam pad. i used to be so anti-foam pad but now i'm more anti-sores on my back.
xp goole caek carne asada otm, keep the weight off/low, keep tight form go low and back/knees should be ok.
― Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
what were you lifting to get sores?
― caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
it's spine/neck contact, guess this means i should take off the pad and get the bar where it's supposed to be.
― Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
low-bar position will fix that but it does take some getting used to
― goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i had the same issue until i figured out the right place to rest the bar
― carne asada, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think part of the problem with the pad is it means the bar is less stable. it's kind of like people who wear gloves and running shoes. the barbell is the size it is for a reason, and unless your body is unusual proportioned, you're screwing that up.
― caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
i've had the benefit of some good coaching that has help me a bunch, otherwise i'd probably being doing a bunch of stuff wrong
― carne asada, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
if you've spent most of your life doing it wrong like me it really takes some time/dedication to turns things around. but eventually your body just starts to "set" better, even in daily life.
― ryan, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
totally.
― Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
goole i got semi-sw0le for like 9 months before i had a babby and got un-sw0le
but if you are looking for sw0le central in mpls, get a membership at Los Campeones gym on Franklin, dudes are serious! it's the best gym, super cheap, never crowded and all free weights and lots of space, barely any bullshit like eliptical trainers etc
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
ha! i have been to that gym. i was staying round the corner and they sold me a week pass. it was 100x better than my gym here.
― caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
i was kinda intimidated at first because there were these crazy big dudes lifting for serious, but i ended up finding out that they were always really helpful and encouraging if you asked them to spot or for help
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
though i did become pretty much certain that certain dudes there were heavily into r0ids
huh wow that is a pretty good deal. but i kind of love my busted-ass Y, and it's right around the corner from me
― goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, i guess the most important thing is having a gym you'll actually go to, so around the corner probably trump whatever advantages los campeones has.
which Y do you go to? blaisdell?
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
midway, dog! apart from people's kids i feel like i'm on the low end of the age curve there
― goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
haha what's the midway scene? drunks from the Trend Bar?
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
ha maybe in a couple cases. it's kind of everybody except your uptown young single white people. kids playing ball, moms on treadmills, old dudes benching in the smith machine, guys who hang out and watch cable in the locker room for hours, etc
― goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
i am working pretty hard on having a nice squat. i feel that barbell squat is currently pretty bad but improves every time. now my thing is i do goblet squats to get the heaviness in (i am up to 50 lbs for 5 reps!) and a number of low-bar back squats at a lighter weight to work on technique. at first i was so so bad at it and couldn't figure out where the bar went and my shoulders hurt. but i found the "shelf" on my back and moved my hands wider. front squats i need much more work on because my wrists hurt.everyone should do this a million times before using the bar imo http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/goblet_squats_101i can't believe i have turned into a person who reads articles on T NATION
― Online Webinar Event for Dads (harbl), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
i don't work hard enough on hamstring flexibility is part of the problem
― Online Webinar Event for Dads (harbl), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
i also have very long femurs and long everything so stuff might be less natural and i probably look like a daddy longlegs doing lifting
― Online Webinar Event for Dads (harbl), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
the right to get sw0le
― buzza, Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/CdXlO.jpg
― 乒乓, Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
i wasn't working on bench press at all until last week, just overhead presses and incline pushups. i have the weakest triceps in the universe.
― Online Webinar Event for Dads (harbl), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
also do you guys like to look at other people's butts a lot when you're out, i do
i can't believe i have turned into a person who reads articles on T NATION
― Online Webinar Event for Dads (harbl), Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:35 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh god, loool (don't read too many). you are awesome. i'm glad you started this thread cuz now i know i gotta fix up my squat. those mark rippetoe youtubes are v. helpful. it's easy to miss problems when you're self-taught. think i'll look for a copy of starting strength.
― Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
this would be a good place to post useful links
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
Tracer, it’s more about the amount of creatine, and a lot of the packaging and stuff is deceptive. For a first month, 5g a day is optimal. Ever after, 2g a day is optimal.Loading and unloading cycles with creatine have been proven to not help with strength or building muscle. It is better to maintain a small, 1-2g/day schedule than to load heavy and unload.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 28 January 2024 13:07 (two months ago) link
Creatine is fine but you have to make sure one of his friends doesn’t introduce him to the Liver King.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 28 January 2024 14:33 (two months ago) link
There's vague warnings of creatine possibly exacerbating hair loss but creatine is generally regarded as about as good as it gets in terms of effective and safe supplements, and it's cheap, with potential benefits in reducing the ravages of alzheimers as well.
At the same time, about 25% of people don't respond to it, possibly because they're already getting sufficient amounts through their diet? It might be more worth taking for a vegetarian/vegan adult than a kid in the throes of adolescence who is already plowing through a rotisserie chicken per day (or various organ meats if he's already been indoctrinated into the Liver Kingdom).
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 28 January 2024 20:15 (two months ago) link
table otm
― ꙮ (map), Sunday, 28 January 2024 21:48 (two months ago) link