Rolling Metal Thread 2012

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I think its usually 100 and he refuses to participate. Last year he got others to join him.

hah xp

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

I've said this all before, but since you keep prodding I'll say it again. I think there are plenty of ways to discover new stuff, like reading this rolling thread, for example. A best of/year in review should be about the things the voting community agrees on, not everything each member likes. The ballots we all post after do a great job of that, and I don't think the poll should try.

Again, different strokes for different folks.

I think 100 is still too much, because the voting pool is small. The whole ILM community only does a top 77 with way more voters.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

noted, phil. no worries.

xp

and it misses out on a LOT of good albums as a result.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I voted last year despite my reservations. Maybe not though. I definitely voted in the main poll.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

Every cutoff misses great records. Just lost them all and have fun.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

List not lost. Fucking phone.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

once the results are in hardly anyone is interested in albums in other peoples ballots. Its far more likely an album getting its 15 mins of fame in a longer rollout will get way more checking it out than it showing up in someones ballot.

But if you're not happy with the way myself,jjj and glenn run the poll, then feel free to run it yourself without us if you think you can do better.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

Dude, it's nothing against any of you! I keep telling you to have fun because people seem to like your style. It's not my thing, as I've said for years, and instead of being snarky this time I was friendly and explained my thoughts.

Again, have fun and do that thing you do. But don't take it personally when I don't participate. I was always at the fringes of centricity (or however that was phrased) anyways so my missing votes won't even matter much.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

the only thing that matters is the poll. And if it can be run better and get more participants by someone else running it i'm happy to step aside.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

Dude, don't be silly. I have nothing against any of you or how you choose to run a poll. I just explained why I'm not participating and wasn't even snarky about it (for a change, I freely admit). I have a different philosophy, that's all.

Good luck, have fun, and my historically fringe votes won't even be missed very much.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

ag, i have no idea why i bother, but here goes:

if you want to turn people on to new records, a top-200 rollout is an awful way to do it. i don't have time to listen to samples from 150 records. i also don't have time to follow a thousand-post thread that takes days and days to finish. if you did a top 50, i could follow the whole thing and listen to many of the ones that i hadn't heard.

but you're going to do whatever you want so

call all destroyer, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

it was not me who mentioned a top 200 fwiw it was ez snappin

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

you did 125. my point stands.

call all destroyer, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

well, we could dispense with a rollout completely and just put a full list in one post just like how it happens in a magazine.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Do we have to have this argument every year?!

Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Friday, 26 October 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

Apparently.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

but i'll tell you what. I'll come up with a few formats then run a standard poll with them and we agree to abide with the results. That way everyone has their say. Cant say fairer than that.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

ez does,jeff.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

Dude, just do a top 50 or 100. 200 is WAY too much. I really appreciate the hard work you put in running the poll, but since this thing is supposed to be for the community and not something that you came up with yourself (like the 70s and 80s polls), I feel like the community does have a say in the rollout – And it seems like the community is saying that they want a smaller list.

Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Friday, 26 October 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

dear j3ff i did not say i was doing a top 200. That was ez snappin.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, piss off AG. You asked a question, I gave a short, succinct answer and you just kept picking and poking.

Do whatever makes you happy dude, and don't worry about pleasing me or me carping about it anymore. I'm done.

Best wishes, etc.,

EZ Snappin, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

What kind of EOY Metal Poll do you want this year?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

And i put a no poll option for phil

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

Angry metal dudes! It seems AG is trying hard to accommodate here. Personally I really don't understand the complaints about longer rollouts. If you don't think they're fun or useful, just wait for the last day when the top 10 or whatever are revealed. What's the big friggin deal?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

I cant please everyone and no matter what I do someone is unhappy so there's a poll to decide. Whatever ilx wants ilx will get and we need to abide with that.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

Voting no poll.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 26 October 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

please keep the discussion off this thread and do it on What kind of EOY Metal Poll do you want this year?

so this thread can run as normal thanks.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

There's a new Pig Destroyer video. Does anyone like it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6dycCqqZS0

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

I dig the distinctly un-metal styling. Also, monkeys with guns - what's not to like?

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 26 October 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

I like a hundred plus poll 'cause it gets me outta my metal comfort zone to try new earth shakin' tunes...

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 26 October 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

can you say that on the other thread please. Best to keep it off this thread so you dont annoy others.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

Here's this week's Lazarus Pit, not metal at all but close enough: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-midnight-syndicates-born-of-the-night/

Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Friday, 26 October 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

Is there a new Cauldron album coming out?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 October 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

There is! http://open.spotify.com/album/1oDZtKLf6PMDwSuoRs9cEW

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 October 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

At my job I've been working on generating automatic introduction playlists for arbitrary genres of music. Here are a couple I did in the process of fiddling with the code:

Gothic Symphonic Metal: http://open.spotify.com/user/glennpmcdonald/playlist/1s6DGJAFH8vA1LHFkQnrTU
Black Metal: http://open.spotify.com/user/glennpmcdonald/playlist/7b10dwILeYCI8D5KJfUdZp

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 27 October 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Got one for doom?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 October 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Doom: http://open.spotify.com/user/glennpmcdonald/playlist/72BfNj0kefmNpIcEtRnJcv

I generated and posted that without checking it song by song, so let me know if you spot anything egregiously inappropriate.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 27 October 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

thanks!
A couple of borderline things maybe but nothing major

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 October 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

Funeral Doom: http://open.spotify.com/user/glennpmcdonald/playlist/5QMc6xIa7x3uNpA6V8xk9G

As you'll see, this has plenty of overlap with the plain "Doom" list, but that makes sense.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 27 October 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

thanks!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

Hi Glenn. If you don't mind me asking, how are you automating the content of these playlists?

Raoul Duke (ku4u1u), Sunday, 28 October 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

And, by request, Atmospheric Black Metal: http://open.spotify.com/user/glennpmcdonald/playlist/3p6x9xQv5aR46SFULNg61x

Raoul, I work for http://the.echonest.com.

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 28 October 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

the band Weedeater that opened for Saint Vitus was one of the loudest bands i've ever seen, way louder than swans who i saw last year

Weedeater is boss. I totally need to see them live.

IMP of the perverse (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 October 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

"the band Weedeater"

(♥___♥) (roxymuzak), Sunday, 28 October 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Hey roxy I think Beast in the Field has put an album out or is about to put an album out. Have you heard it yet?

IMP of the perverse (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 October 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

its coming out in january. cd, no vinyl til march. i've only heard one track - doesnt seem like a big departure, still the same ol' world-ending doom, really good.

(♥___♥) (roxymuzak), Sunday, 28 October 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

also i cant believe this is their 5th album. time flies.

(♥___♥) (roxymuzak), Sunday, 28 October 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

Right on

IMP of the perverse (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 October 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

Glenn that must be a fun job. I've never heard of echonest but it looks like i use your clients. Well, Spotify at least.

Raoul Duke (ku4u1u), Sunday, 28 October 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

oh cool new weedeater

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 28 October 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link


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