when did ILM get taken over by MORONS?

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I still really wish that one guy wasn't wearing a Cardinals shirt.
Cardinal Mor4n!

― k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

random google morons who get all uppity because someone is hating on their 12th favourite indie rock band and list threads are the things that annoy me, moron-wise. I kind of blame gier for the list thread thing, though no doubt it was someone else who kicked that one off. I think there's the same amount of good stuff there as there always was, but the s/n ratio has got a lot worse recently.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i've said it before and i'll say it again, ilm has made me way way listy. i never really cared about lists before. i wasn't much of a list-maker in that analobsessive rockcritiky way. i never thought about my top ten favorite boogie woogie artists or whatever. when in rome, i suppose...

i hate ilm too sometimes. mostly cuz i spend too much time on it. that brings out some nice self-loathing. but every time i see another message board/forum on the web devoted to music in some way i thank my lucky stars that i don't have to deal with the other morans out there in the real world! i am used to ilx morans.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I think your hunch / theory has some truth to it. (i.e. that 'theory' is effectively a language game in which knowing the rules, and participating in the conversation is central, and the actual names / terms in circulation could be switched for something else -- e.g. football / soccer without much changing, except that 'theory' talkers maybe share some kind of sense that what they're talking about is 'important' in a different way from the way football talk is 'important' [left unexplained here: important TO someone; important to the future of the universe; etc. different conversations will have different answers, clearly, which is why people take part in them, maybe, and could we explore the differences starting from this question?]) I don't think it's the whole truth, but I would have to think a bit before I could put my finger on what my reserveations are...

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 17 September 2005 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/archive.php?board=2&date=28%2F8%2F2000

― k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't really like lists myself, whether it's ten best whatevers or ilm's top whatevers of the noughties poll... but there's no reason to get angry about it!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

mark i wanted to ask you if you've seen "the aristocrats" and what you thought of it. (i haven't)

ILX isn't like one joke told 100 ways, it's 100 jokes told in one boring way.

n million threads about dance/reggae/rap w/ people endlessly restating a few other people's views, w/o generally even thinking about it or bothering to know the music.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

it's like ILX has spawned this whole monstrous group of people who are more comfortable talking about things like "movements" "styles" and "genres" than they are talking about a fucking CD or song or artist or something.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

vent some of this anger on our poor, malingering blog, duder

― strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

anyway, the answer is august 2001

― strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never understood the hate directed at list threads. They're just fun time-wasters that don't need to be taken seriously. Top 100 songs with baby talk in the chorus? Why not? They're like the silly games you'd play in the car as a kid when you'd be on a long drive, except now you're grown up and it's the internet.

I'm a list freak but obv. lists != informed discussion.

n million threads about dance/reggae/rap w/ people endlessly restating a few other people's views, w/o generally even thinking about it or bothering to know the music.

This is why I generally avoid the big clusterfuck threads and prefer the smaller threads where ten people shoot the shit about Wolfgang Voigt.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

This predates ILX though, no? I mean, what about literary critics who want to talk about "textuality" or "authorship" or whatever instead of actual specific books?

― pr00de, where's my car? (pr00de), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeez vahid, next time I have a stoopid pissed Bob Marley thought I'll keep it to meself.

― I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

frogm@n henry made me laff here:

Q Magazine 100 greatest albums-I know what I'm voting for-Loveless

― amon (eman), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

vahid i haven't seen the aristocrats yet!! but fuck, i gotta soon.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

slocki just reminded me that the only people i like to talk to about movies on ile post to the noize board at least once in a blue moon. coincidence?

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i didn't like the aristocrats that much, it's probably one to see on dvd if at all.

― gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

slocki just reminded me that the only people i like to talk to about movies on ile post to the noize board at least once in a blue moon. coincidence?

i was gonna say the same thing about ILM

― Jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

aristocrats not as good as hoped. when the entire point of the movie is about what you learn about a comedian from their version of the joke, then you edit the hell out of everyone's rendition so at no point do you actually hear any comedian tell the joke from start to finish seems odd. Taylor Negron wins for funniest interviewee, though.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

they don't present their versions in full?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

as an info service and a way to meet people who like some of the music I like ILM is pretty good, not that there are legions of new people coming in these days, but I don't really get the hate for ILM. If it gets boring I tend not to read it, the last week or two has been a bit quiet. I suppose I don't use it for serious argument/discussion anymore, I just read whatever the latest few threads about dance music are.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 September 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

fkn strt the video game board already

fks sake

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Why am I scaring you? You obviously do not really love music if you can't locate the electro/techno textures in Roni's work.
Some more suggestions on a rather more chilled, post-club comedown vibe:

Mantra ft Linda Oliviera - Lullaby
Groove Armada - Superstylin'
Lemon Jelly - Come
Playtime Toons - The Shaker Song
Different Gear vs The Police - When The World Is Running
Azido Da Bass - Dooms Night (Timo Maas Mix)
Bob Marley vs Funkstar Deluxe - Sun Is Shinin'

-- Carte Noir (c.n.eos89...), September 17th, 2005 4:12 PM. (later)

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 September 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

re: aristocrats, suprisingly no...I kept waiting for even ONE version, maybe what they decided was the definitive version, say Gilbert Gottfried's appearance at the Heffner roast or Bob Saget's lengthy and dirty dirty version, but nope. By all means it's worth watching, but it would've made a great 50 minute dvd or something.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

ILX isn't like one joke told 100 ways, it's 100 jokes told in one boring way.

Vahid, I don't understand. Why keep visiting/reading/posting to ILM? If you don't like something, just walk away from it.

― nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 17 September 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

dan: that's weird! maybe the dvd will include all the full-length versions, though. still, i must see this movie i suppose.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

what is ILM again?

― sugarpants: like throwing gold at platinum. (sugarpants), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.codap.com/papers/Ward/ILM.gif

― gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Taylor Negron wins for funniest interviewee, though.

taylor negron!! :D

― don't be jerk, this is china (FE7), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Taylor Negron
Born: 1-Aug-1958
Birthplace: Glendale, CA

Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Hispanic
Occupation: Actor, Comic

Level of fame: Somewhat [ha!!]
Executive summary: The Last Boy Scout

― don't be jerk, this is china (FE7), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

fezaffe, how are you so in tune with american pop culture that you know who taylor negron is?

who is the german equivalent of taylor negron, then?

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

i dont know! ive only seen him in last boy scout

― don't be jerk, this is china (FE7), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

i've only talked to him on the noize board

― dr gary busey (dr g), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

not his best work, i assure you.

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.disinfotainmenttoday.com/emulsionalproblems/negroncarrothead.jpg

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

he's been in every movie and tv show ever. I saw a stand-up thing once and it was more like a demented spaulding grey monologue.

I used to get him confused with Robert Romanus, who played Mike Damone in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Negron was only the pizza delivery guy in Fast Times.

I also used to get him mixed up with Dean Cameron from Summer School and Hot Dog and also a funny failed tv show where he was an alien.

http://www.deancameron.com/

Negron was the mailman in Better Off Dead.

Biography for
Taylor Negron

Height
6' (1.83 m)
Trivia
Cousin of Chuck Negron, former main lead singer of 60s/70s rock/pop group Three Dog Night, as referenced in Chuck's book "Three Dog Nightmare".

Is a mix of Puerto Rican and Jewish heritage.

Appeared 5 times on "The Dating Game" in the 1970's.

Is a very talented stand-up comic

Most well-known for his chilling turn as the villain 'Milo' in The Last Boy Scout.

IMDB is awesome

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

oh man...Dean Cameron PLAYED Spicoli in the TV version of Fast Times. Small world. And he wasn't in Hot Dog, he was in Ski School.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Is a mix of Puerto Rican and Jewish heritage.
Is a mix of Puerto Rican and Jewish heritage.
Is a mix of Puerto Rican and Jewish heritage.

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

like you, cutie pie!

― lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

also, it wasn't Negron's version of the joke that killed me, but an adlib where he said "everything changed...after the tragic events.... of January 16th. what, I lost my visa card."

or something.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

aww, my lauren. :(

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

in the movie, who was that older comedian? his face had a lot of liver spots or something like that and he sounded like billy west? he was lying on his bed, i think...

― the son of dean cameron (dr g), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

i dunno, there were a few older comedians, Shelly Berman maybe.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

with all of this internetting you're doing, you could check your email once in a while.

― lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

CAUGHT!

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

i'll look into it ... this guy sounded exactly like billy west and looked really worn down.

― the son of dean cameron (dr g), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

post-mortem alan king?

― gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

guys i pay tribute to dean cameron in an article i wrote here, which by some weird coincidence i posted a link to the other day on the ski thing thread

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: researching Taylor Negron and Dean Cameron on the internet or corresponding with Lauren?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link

hmmm

― the son of dean cameron (dr g), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

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― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, I rarely heckle myself. But I do enjoy it. Not if its overdone, true. But I like the way it deflates the typical show dynamic a bit. My favorite example, I guess, is at the end of some bands set and before they went offstage to wait out the inevitable encore, some guy yelled "play another song you fucking faggots!" Admittedly not witty, but it made me laugh. Now that I think about it, I only really like it when there's a roomful of people all rapt over some sensitive soul up there sharing their intelligence and genius or whatever. I like seeing that deflated.

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see I'm not saying that whoever the fuck this guy is 'represents' ILM '10 or whatever but I think it was this that pushed me over the edge

― the light hearted poster for light hearted ilxors (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i found my mouse hovering over the link to the "best third albums EVER!" thread

Got to be London Calling, right? Dig Me Out & Born To Run are also doozies.

― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

threads are just polls without the numbers.

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

feeling rather perverse this morning and clicked on the Christina Aguilera thread... she's working with diplo and switch now! wow! where did i put that assault rifle...

― zoom, Thursday, 11 February 2010 07:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Have you checked behind that big pile of SugBans?

― Are you reelin' in the SBs? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2010 08:19 (fourteen years ago) link

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h143/Aramyr/bad-dudes.jpg

― GRIZZLY! GRRR! GRRR! So Indie Entertaaaaiiiinmeeent! (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 February 2010 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

ikr

― pomenitul, Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link

great revive

― international sword swallower, producer and creative director (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

I knew I could count on you.

― pomenitul, Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

(With apologies to Neanderthal.)

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